Perhaps the same day on which they announced a 50% reduction of the size of 
their website is not the best time...

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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Content 'n' Commons

One of you chaps has a contact in the BBC, I believe.

I've been thinking about the BBC and some of its news/factual content and 
whether they might be willing to release some of it under CC-BY-SA and 
therefore appropriate to embed in Wikipedia.

Obviously a lot of content needs to remain under restrictive licenses; a lot of 
output (most of it, I would guess) is produced by independent companies and one 
can't expect the Beeb to start renegotiating with them.

But it strikes me that they produce a lot of in-house stuff that simply won't 
have much resale/repeat value and for which I don't think (but I am willing to 
be challenged on this) they would need to worry about royalties and rights.

There's also the argument that "due to the unique way the BBC is funded" some 
of their content *should* be more available to the public and to release some 
content (content of little to no future value) under a more sharing-friendly 
licence would be the right thing to do.

I intend to look and listen to BBC content more carefully to pick out which 
specific programmes are independently produced and which are in-house, so I'll 
be vague in what I'm going to say next, not mentioning specific programme 
titles:

They produce a lot of output that relates to specific political issues, they 
have interviews with public figures, they cover science topics and produce 
other content that would be educational.

So I'm wondering if our BBC insider could maybe use his contact to propose 
CC-BY-SA licensing for some content and see what their reaction is. Perhaps 
before that's done though it would be well to have a list of, say, five 
illustrative examples of what we'd be talking about. I foresee a slight problem 
in doing this; the BBC puts content online but it is usually available for a 
relatively short period, so if we wanted to *link* to these examples the 
content might be gone by the time our contact is approached. I'm not sure what 
a good solution to that problem is. It may just be a case of noting very 
carefully the date of transmission, programme title, channel and the
'timestamp'(?) of any individual segment we're inspired by.

In summary, I propose:

1. That we, over the next seven days, all take note of programmes that are not 
specifically credited as being produced by independent companies.
2. Consider whether what we've watched/listened to would be good for Wikimedia 
projects and report likely candidates to this thread.

Having done that:

3. Think about how we can present a case to the BBC for some CC-BY-SA licensing.

I'm just imagining some really great stuff being made available to Commons and, 
once it's there, all the amazing things volunteers can do with it. What do you 
chaps think?

User:Bodnotbod (en:wp)

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