This is an interesting line of thought. I think a lot could be done with local experts.
I've been talking to my OU lecturer about this and they strike me as another good avenue for doing adult/expert education of Wikipedia. Tom On 3 June 2011 16:52, Roger Bamkin <[email protected]> wrote: > So we need a lead person or project. > > Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening > course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support > > Anyone? > Roger B > > On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third >> age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course. >> Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring >> in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course. >> >> But please call it something other than "creating your own wiki page". >> Aside from winding up the deletionists, that risks letting people >> think they own a page, or that they can create a page about them. Your >> hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia would be OK, someone else >> will I hope come up with something snazzier. >> >> But this definitely has legs. >> >> We could also make use of a photographers version to explain commons >> to local photography clubs. >> >> WereSpielChequers >> >> On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put >> together >> > a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an >> enevening >> > course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure whether Martin made >> any >> > progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of >> > people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia ... >> if >> > we just explained it and demo ed it at the same time. >> > >> > Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to Wiki >> > editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help >> > appreciated. >> > >> > regards >> > Roger B >> > >> > On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> There is an education list >> >> at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which >> appears to >> >> be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone >> regularly >> >> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who >> want to >> >> work with Education and Wikimedia projects, it include a fair number of >> >> Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as >> well as >> >> a number of other people in various chapters involved in education >> stuffs, >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hey Alex, >> >>> Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of >> >>> content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my >> current >> >>> focus is; the "beginner" guides are more suited (at least in my >> experience >> >>> of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more >> material on >> >>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that seems a better start point >> before >> >>> leaping into account creation :)). >> >>> >> >>> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing >> >>> Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly >> different perspective - >> >>> which is that most of the kids I will be talking to aren't interested >> in >> >>> writing (and probably aren't yet capable of doing so) a Wikipedia >> article. >> >>> On the other hand I aim to teach them about using WP as a resource >> (and the >> >>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to get them to treat it with >> respect >> >>> (i.e. quit the vandalism). >> >>> Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching >> >>> materials is happening? >> >>> Tom >> >>> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I >> >>>> thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities >> for >> >>>> too long. >> >>>> Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some >> development >> >>>> in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. >> You may >> >>>> want to check out the stuff on the Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf >> project >> >>>> for materials you can destribute instead of making all of them >> yourself >> >>>> (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been >> developing >> >>>> a fair amount of stuff at the education portal on outreach, though >> still a >> >>>> work in progress (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot >> has >> >>>> already been developed in fairly professional ways, it just needs to >> be >> >>>> applied in the class room, >> >>>> Alex >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Chris, >> >>>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try >> >>>>> and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active >> project that >> >>>>> I'd missed :P >> >>>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Alex, >> >>>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks >> >>>>> like some great work (yet another reason to wish I was a student >> again :)). >> >>>>> Expanding that into schools is a major project, but one that I think >> would >> >>>>> net us some massive gains long term. I'd be really interested in >> hearing >> >>>>> about your work with the high school professors. >> >>>>> In general: >> >>>>> I've been interested in education for a while; I'm a scout leader >> here >> >>>>> & my parents have their own business doing educational visits to >> schools on >> >>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have fairly extensive experience of >> that sort >> >>>>> of "business model"). The reason I have a specific interest now is >> that I've >> >>>>> been approached to look at doing an evening class on computers and >> the >> >>>>> internet at a local secondary school. One of the topics I want to >> cover is >> >>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing. >> >>>>> I could put together some teaching material & release it for others >> to >> >>>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I think there is loads more we could >> expand into >> >>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff like working with the teaching bodies >> to get >> >>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and perhaps even worked into the >> curriculum (at >> >>>>> the very least work with them to provide useful material for >> >>>>> teachers/students about Wikipedia). In fact, something like the >> training >> >>>>> events Cancer Research people (but for teachers) would be really >> interesting >> >>>>> to explore. >> >>>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great to try and team up with >> some >> >>>>> of the GLAM institutions to run educational days (i.e. have groups >> of kids >> >>>>> turn up to learn about stuff using local and Wikipedia content, and >> to get >> >>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia). >> >>>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to train up and support >> Wikipedia >> >>>>> volunteers who want to go into the classroom - because teaching >> kids can be >> >>>>> damned hard! >> >>>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think it is one of our most >> important >> >>>>> outreach areas in the UK. >> >>>>> Tom >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard it >> >>>>>> mentioned at all since the new Board took office. >> >>>>>> Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it, >> that >> >>>>>> would be very welcome. Whereabouts are you, Tom? >> >>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>> Chris >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hey all, >> >>>>>>> What is the status of our work with >> >>>>>>> schools/education? >> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems >> >>>>>>> to be a little stagnant, there are references to other School >> interactions >> >>>>>>> on the Wiki (including a link to a hidden office page about the >> educational >> >>>>>>> budget). >> >>>>>>> Is any of this still active? >> >>>>>>> I only ask because I've been approached locally to do some >> in-school >> >>>>>>> work relating to Wikipedia and it occurred to me that this is a >> major area >> >>>>>>> we could be focusing on. >> >>>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience working with children, >> schools >> >>>>>>> and educators and it would be great to contribute that on a wider >> scale. >> >>>>>>> If none of those projects are particularly active, would anyone be >> >>>>>>> interested in working on this (including volunteering to go into >> schools and >> >>>>>>> youth groups)? >> >>>>>>> Tom / ErrantX >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> >>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> >>>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> >>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> >>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> >>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Roger Bamkin >> > (aka Victuallers) >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia UK mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> > > > > -- > Roger Bamkin > (aka Victuallers) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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