Tom, WSC Be Bold if you have time.
@Tom .... would the OU Do this for us? I could see it as a supplemental module to a number of courses. regards Roger On 3 June 2011 22:11, Thomas Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > This is an interesting line of thought. > > I think a lot could be done with local experts. > > I've been talking to my OU lecturer about this and they strike me as > another good avenue for doing adult/expert education of Wikipedia. > > Tom > > > On 3 June 2011 16:52, Roger Bamkin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So we need a lead person or project. >> >> Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening >> course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support >> >> Anyone? >> Roger B >> >> On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third >>> age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course. >>> Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring >>> in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course. >>> >>> But please call it something other than "creating your own wiki page". >>> Aside from winding up the deletionists, that risks letting people >>> think they own a page, or that they can create a page about them. Your >>> hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia would be OK, someone else >>> will I hope come up with something snazzier. >>> >>> But this definitely has legs. >>> >>> We could also make use of a photographers version to explain commons >>> to local photography clubs. >>> >>> WereSpielChequers >>> >>> On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put >>> together >>> > a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an >>> enevening >>> > course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure whether Martin >>> made any >>> > progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of >>> > people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia >>> ... if >>> > we just explained it and demo ed it at the same time. >>> > >>> > Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to >>> Wiki >>> > editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help >>> > appreciated. >>> > >>> > regards >>> > Roger B >>> > >>> > On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> There is an education list >>> >> at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which >>> appears to >>> >> be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone >>> regularly >>> >> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who >>> want to >>> >> work with Education and Wikimedia projects, it include a fair number >>> of >>> >> Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as >>> well as >>> >> a number of other people in various chapters involved in education >>> stuffs, >>> >> Alex >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey Alex, >>> >>> Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of >>> >>> content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my >>> current >>> >>> focus is; the "beginner" guides are more suited (at least in my >>> experience >>> >>> of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more >>> material on >>> >>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that seems a better start point >>> before >>> >>> leaping into account creation :)). >>> >>> >>> >>> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing >>> >>> Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly >>> different perspective - >>> >>> which is that most of the kids I will be talking to aren't interested >>> in >>> >>> writing (and probably aren't yet capable of doing so) a Wikipedia >>> article. >>> >>> On the other hand I aim to teach them about using WP as a resource >>> (and the >>> >>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to get them to treat it with >>> respect >>> >>> (i.e. quit the vandalism). >>> >>> Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching >>> >>> materials is happening? >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I >>> >>>> thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with >>> universities for >>> >>>> too long. >>> >>>> Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some >>> development >>> >>>> in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. >>> You may >>> >>>> want to check out the stuff on the Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf >>> project >>> >>>> for materials you can destribute instead of making all of them >>> yourself >>> >>>> (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been >>> developing >>> >>>> a fair amount of stuff at the education portal on outreach, though >>> still a >>> >>>> work in progress (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot >>> has >>> >>>> already been developed in fairly professional ways, it just needs to >>> be >>> >>>> applied in the class room, >>> >>>> Alex >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton >>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Chris, >>> >>>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to >>> try >>> >>>>> and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active >>> project that >>> >>>>> I'd missed :P >>> >>>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Alex, >>> >>>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks >>> >>>>> like some great work (yet another reason to wish I was a student >>> again :)). >>> >>>>> Expanding that into schools is a major project, but one that I >>> think would >>> >>>>> net us some massive gains long term. I'd be really interested in >>> hearing >>> >>>>> about your work with the high school professors. >>> >>>>> In general: >>> >>>>> I've been interested in education for a while; I'm a scout leader >>> here >>> >>>>> & my parents have their own business doing educational visits to >>> schools on >>> >>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have fairly extensive experience of >>> that sort >>> >>>>> of "business model"). The reason I have a specific interest now is >>> that I've >>> >>>>> been approached to look at doing an evening class on computers and >>> the >>> >>>>> internet at a local secondary school. One of the topics I want to >>> cover is >>> >>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing. >>> >>>>> I could put together some teaching material & release it for others >>> to >>> >>>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I think there is loads more we could >>> expand into >>> >>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff like working with the teaching >>> bodies to get >>> >>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and perhaps even worked into the >>> curriculum (at >>> >>>>> the very least work with them to provide useful material for >>> >>>>> teachers/students about Wikipedia). In fact, something like the >>> training >>> >>>>> events Cancer Research people (but for teachers) would be really >>> interesting >>> >>>>> to explore. >>> >>>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great to try and team up with >>> some >>> >>>>> of the GLAM institutions to run educational days (i.e. have groups >>> of kids >>> >>>>> turn up to learn about stuff using local and Wikipedia content, and >>> to get >>> >>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia). >>> >>>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to train up and support >>> Wikipedia >>> >>>>> volunteers who want to go into the classroom - because teaching >>> kids can be >>> >>>>> damned hard! >>> >>>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think it is one of our most >>> important >>> >>>>> outreach areas in the UK. >>> >>>>> Tom >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard it >>> >>>>>> mentioned at all since the new Board took office. >>> >>>>>> Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it, >>> that >>> >>>>>> would be very welcome. Whereabouts are you, Tom? >>> >>>>>> Regards, >>> >>>>>> Chris >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton >>> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>> >>>>>>> What is the status of our work with >>> >>>>>>> schools/education? >>> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems >>> >>>>>>> to be a little stagnant, there are references to other School >>> interactions >>> >>>>>>> on the Wiki (including a link to a hidden office page about the >>> educational >>> >>>>>>> budget). >>> >>>>>>> Is any of this still active? >>> >>>>>>> I only ask because I've been approached locally to do some >>> in-school >>> >>>>>>> work relating to Wikipedia and it occurred to me that this is a >>> major area >>> >>>>>>> we could be focusing on. >>> >>>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience working with children, >>> schools >>> >>>>>>> and educators and it would be great to contribute that on a wider >>> scale. >>> >>>>>>> If none of those projects are particularly active, would anyone >>> be >>> >>>>>>> interested in working on this (including volunteering to go into >>> schools and >>> >>>>>>> youth groups)? >>> >>>>>>> Tom / ErrantX >>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>> >>>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> >>>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>> >>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> >>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> >>>>> [email protected] >>> >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> >>>> [email protected] >>> >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Roger Bamkin >>> > (aka Victuallers) >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Roger Bamkin >> (aka Victuallers) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > -- Roger Bamkin (aka Victuallers)
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