Do you think that's a bad thing Andy? On 15 November 2012 11:36, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the additional info; I'm familiar with the history. My > point is that - for whatever reason - the CIPR guidelines are stricter > than Wikipedia's own, and we need to be mindful of that. > > On 15 November 2012 10:58, Stevie Benton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks for your email Andy. I've already requested they correct that > error. > > > > With regards to your point about COI editing - the guidelines the CIPR > refer > > to were developed with WMUK, some Wikipedians and some people from CIPR > and > > PRCA. The development took place on the WMUK Wiki and was widely shared > and > > people were encouraged to participate. > > > > Regardless of whether there is a total prohibition on editing article > spaces > > directly in EN:WP policy, we have seen (many, many times) that when PR > > professionals directly edit article space bad things happen. Even if > edits > > are benign and factual, if it comes to light that they were made > directly by > > PRs acting on behalf of a client, nobody wins and a COI is automatically > > assumed by many. It's not good for trust in Wikipedia, it's not good for > the > > PR industry and it's not good for their clients. > > > > If you'd like some more background on the development of the guidance, a > > good place to start is at > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Draft_best_practice_guidelines_for_PR > > > > Thanks, > > > > Stevie > > > > > > > > On 15 November 2012 10:51, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> On 15 November 2012 10:09, Stevie Benton < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > PR Week have published another story on this - > >> > > http://www.prweek.com/uk/news/1159715/wikipedia-defends-editing-processes-following-finsbury-clean-up/ > >> > >> They have you as "Wikipedia [with a "p"] UK comms organiser". is > >> suspect we may never win that battle. > >> > >> I note that it is claimed (and I don't doubt) that the "CIPR [...] > >> guidance for PROs [is that] they should not directly edit Wikipedia > >> pages relating to their organisation or a client". I should like > >> people to be mindful that that's not what en.Wikipedia's CoI guidance > >> says; there has never been consensus for a total prohibition (though I > >> acknowledge that some feel strongly that there should be). > >> > >> -- > >> Andy Mabbett > >> @pigsonthewing > >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia UK mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Stevie Benton > > Communications Organiser > > Wikimedia UK > > +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 > > @StevieBenton > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A > 4LT. > > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > > > Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over > > Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > > > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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