Correction: I'm replying as a volunteer and member :-) On Nov 29, 2013 12:07 AM, "Richard Symonds" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin makes a good point and now that I'm off work for a few days ill > reply as a volunteer: I would be in favour of signing this. is something I > believe most members would agree with signing too. > On Nov 28, 2013 3:31 PM, "Stevie Benton" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the replies. As Martin notes, I haven't said it is out of >> scope, but that *some may* feel that way. >> >> It is a tricky question, actually. If I had to call it on my own view, >> I'd say sign it as it is worthwhile. "Free and open" being the key words >> here - if there is widespread and secretive surveillance, then the web, and >> the knowledge contained therein, becomes neither free nor open. But I can >> see that it isn't necessarily clear-cut, hence asking the question. >> >> >> On 28 November 2013 15:23, Richard Symonds < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well, it's not really directly linked to our objects ("for the benefit >>> of the public, to promote and support the widest possible public access to, >>> use of and contribution to Open Content of an encyclopaedic or educational >>> nature or of similar utility to the general public"). That said, >>> ensuring that data safeguards are in place (in part by signing things like >>> this) would help encourage people to use the internet and be more open with >>> their knowledge (as they can trust it more if it's properly regulated and >>> data isn't being surreptitiously obtained by all and sundry). >>> >>> A complex question. >>> >>> Richard Symonds >>> Wikimedia UK >>> 0207 065 0992 >>> >>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >>> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >>> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >>> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >>> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>> >>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >>> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >>> >>> >>> On 28 November 2013 15:18, Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 28 November 2013 13:24, Stevie Benton < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Hello everyone, >>>> > >>>> > Wikimedia UK has been asked to consider signing a document supporting >>>> these >>>> > International Principles on the Application of Human Rights to >>>> > Communications Surveillance In principle I think this is worthwhile >>>> and >>>> > shows that we are on the side of the every day internet user. But >>>> some may >>>> > say it is out of our scope. What do people think? If there's a >>>> consensus >>>> > I'll add Wikimedia UK to the list. >>>> > >>>> > This can be discussed on this list or on the Water Cooler of the WMUK >>>> wiki >>>> > if you prefer. >>>> >>>> What were the "out of our scope" objections? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Fae >>>> -- >>>> [email protected] http://j.mp/faewm >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Stevie Benton >> Communications Organiser >> Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 >> @StevieBenton >> >> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >> >> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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