The answer is "well yes, a lot of those are under the same consideration,
sources that are even worse tend not to be disputed as to being obviously
not good."

On 9 February 2017 at 15:57, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> And NB that none of the 12,000 links to the Mail from Wikipedia have been
> removed yet by the "ban", and they will be reviewed and possibly replaced
> one-by-one, just like we review every other contribution..... (If the "ban"
> in fact remains in force - I have a suspicion the RfC won't be the last
> word on the subject!)
>
> Which leaves the question of "why blacklist the Daily Mail not even worse
> sources?" If anyone can suggest an answer to that which would keep a journo
> happy I'd be interested to hear it .... ;)
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:47 PM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> compare -
>> * not right-wing-ness - e.g. the Times and Telegraph are both serious
>> papers that lean right
>> * in fact - The Sun is not OK and the Times is, even though same politics
>> and same publisher, because one's a tabloid and one's a serious paper
>> * memorise the long lists of egregious falsehoods brought up in the RFC,
>> recite in a calm voice while smiling
>>
>> On 9 February 2017 at 15:45, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That is literally what the task is, yes :-)
>>>
>>> On 9 February 2017 at 15:41, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmmm, trying to turn an interview from "zomg! Wikipedia bans the Mail!"
>>>> round to "actually this is all normal and we have some really interesting
>>>> community preferences" sounds.... tricky. ;)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 1:51 PM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Usual line is "editorial decision, I'll forward your details to some
>>>>> editors" then email here ;-D
>>>>>
>>>>> sooooo er, editors?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 February 2017 at 13:45, Lucy Crompton-Reid
>>>>> <lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi all
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks very much for flagging this David. I think it would be great
>>>>> if
>>>>> > someone could talk about this from an editor's perspective - in
>>>>> particular
>>>>> > the process of consensus building within the Wikipedia community, as
>>>>> it's
>>>>> > clear many people working in the media don't understand this. If
>>>>> someone
>>>>> > does respond to you directly, please could you let me know?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The office has had a flood of emails and phone calls which we've been
>>>>> > fielding as best as we can. I'm hoping that when San Francisco wakes
>>>>> up and
>>>>> > comes online they will send me their statement on the issue, which
>>>>> would
>>>>> > help to deal with enquiries.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > All best
>>>>> > Lucy
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 9 February 2017 at 13:38, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> BBC Newsnight want a Wikipedia editor who can talk about this, for
>>>>> >> tonight. I can't, can anyone else? Email me and I'll forward you the
>>>>> >> email.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> - d.
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