This is information only, so please don't @me, there is no opinion nor
deeds by me
There was a post to English Wikisource Scriptorium that mentioned this
and a subsequent update
https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Scriptorium&diff=11897238&oldid=11896930
The phabricator channel for Wikisources is worth watching
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1117/
The phabricator channel for ProofreadPage similarly
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/276/
Where there is any release coming that is impactful for Wikisources, one
is able to add the changes so they are marked to appear in Tech News eg.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/45
Similarly there is a mailing list for Tech Ambassadors where impactful
news can be sent
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
There is the message delivery list for Wikisource Scriptoriums
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikisource_Scriptoriums
anyone can create messages for use, though it needs "massmessage" right
at metawiki so we need someone from
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=massmessage-sender
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=sysop
to send. There are numbers of members of WS communities who can do that,
and it is not an issue to get more members of community added.
-- billinghurst
------ Original Message ------
From: "Ruthven" <[email protected]>
To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library"
<[email protected]>
Sent: 21/11/2021 6:46:32 PM
Subject: [Wikisource-l] Re: MediaWiki, Wikisource extensions, and new
implementations deployment
Hi Ankry,
on Italian Wikisource and on Neapolitan Wikisource there are
"Technical" village pumps. I suppose that would be the correct place to
post it if there is such a page in other languages.
It would be interesting to see what happens if a whole community writes
on Phabricator in order to delay a major deployment...
It happened in the past that we used global CSS to nullify
(display=None) a newly deployed feature that wasn't mature enough. Here
it would require more work I suppose, but I am sure that it can be
done.
What I am trying to say is that it's ridiculous to be passive when a
different community (the so called developers) modify a project without
any contact with the users.
Alex
Ruthven on Wikipedia
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 18:36, Ankry <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, I was notified by techncally skilled users that the ned
OpenSeadragon library is much heavier and more memory consuming than
curreently used tools. So I can only hope that its load into memory
can be disabled if one needs so.
(may be critical while working on multiple pages at once)
However, I doubt if any technical comments from communities expressed
here will reach developers. And which wiki pages would be more
appropriate for such comments.
Ankry
W dniu 20.11.2021 o 14:33, Ruthven pisze:
Hi all,
as usual, I get surprised every time there are major changes on the
MediaWiki software that are deployed without providing advance
warning to the community.
Every time it's the same story: something stops working on the
project. A gadget, a toolbar or some personalised JS.
This time it was T288141 (see
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288141), that was deployed in all
the Wikisources (then rolled back because WikiMedia computer
scientists are the best) completely disrupting redesigning the image
side of the Page namespace. This affected the toolbars (see
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T296033) and several gadgets around
all the Wikisources.
I am not saying that MediaWiki software shouldn't be improved: it's
normal that we're trying to get all we can from this outdated
software. I am just asking that major changes that affect all the
Wikisources should be announced in every single Village Pump waaay
before deploying them on the projects.
Is it possible, as a Usergroup, to do a little pressure to be
considered as a community and not as guinea pigs on which to deploy
new, partially-tested features?
Alex
Ruthven on Wikipedia
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