I was under the impression we were talking about changing the strings at the individual Wikis, thus a custom message, not in the language files used for all MediaWiki sites... I'm not sure, then, what the problem is Gerard? If we alter a message locally at Wikipedia how does that affect TranslateWiki's efficacy with regards to non-Wikimedia wikis?
Mark On 8/31/09, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > Centralised localisation works when the resulting localised messages are > usable and useful in all environments. More exceptions to this rule make it > seem as if central localisation is not a good idea. There is already one > acknowledged exception to the rule; messages that inform about the policies > of a local wiki, there is now a second category and they are messages that > have parameters like the system name. > > While I appreciate Domas' search for more performance, I am equally of the > opinion that there are other factors to consider. Siebrand wrote that HE is > aware of this. This is nice but we support other projects that run MediaWiki > and our support should allow for THEY are aware of this. There is also a > constant flow of new localised messages and these can include the list of > messages that has been shown earlier in this thread. I can imagine that we > have some functionality that is part of the update.php that updates these > values in the plain vanilla messages. > > What I am looking for is proper support. The least is proper documentation > and it can be expanded to a procedure that allows other wikis to benefit > from the knowledge we have gained. My overriding concern is that our > language support is not sacrificed at the cost of a few cycles. Even when > there are a lot of them. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2009/8/31 Andrew Garrett <[email protected]> > >> >> On 31/08/2009, at 9:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> >> > Hoi, >> > There are two opposing objectives at play. Performance is one and >> > quality >> > localisation for MediaWiki in all our projects is the second. Just >> > stating >> > that performance trumps our localisation is also very much a nono. >> > >> > These are consequences and they have to be considered. Just breaking >> > the way >> > our localisation works in this way is at least equally unacceptable >> > as poor >> > performance is. >> >> You haven't explained exactly what impact this will have on >> localisation. Perhaps providing concrete disadvantages instead of >> vague topic areas will make your argument more convincing. >> >> -- >> Andrew Garrett >> [email protected] >> http://werdn.us/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- skype: node.ue _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
