2005 releases were the best, I wouldn't use newer only if I have a
good reason to do so.



On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Lane, Ryan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I haven't read all the documents, but have these researchers taken
>> into account backported fixes?
>>
>> My gut feeling is that the "preference" for 1.12 is simply due to its
>> inclusion in Debian stable [1]. The maintainer seems to be actively
>> backporting security fixes [2], so while I agree that these versions
>> may enjoy less community support, they should not be considered broken
>> on the basis of the version number alone.
>>
>> This, of course, unless it is certain that some vulnerabilities are
>> still present in the Debian version. If you are aware of the existence
>> of such a problem, I would recommend you contact
>> <[email protected]>. Otherwise, the situation might not be as
>> dangerous as it seems.
>>
>> On the topic of facilitating upgrades: perhaps we should emphasize the
>> option to install and upgrade using SVN, which is probably very
>> convenient for users that are comfortable with the command line.
>> Moodle has this in the official documentation and I find it very
>> useful [3]. SVN could also be handy as the backend for a user-friendly
>> upgrade procedure, as it already deals with local modifications and
>> such.
>>
>
> As someone who has had their code patched by the debian team, I'd like to
> take the time to bitch about this.
>
> Firstly, their patches are often incorrect. Secondly, though they've patched
> my LDAP extension a number of times, I have *never* received a bug report or
> a patch from them for something they've fixed. It is extremely annoying to
> see a fix has been around that I could have used months before someone
> reports a problem to me. Beyond anything else this bothers me the most. They
> really need to be better community members in regards to this. Lastly,
> packaging and maintaining such an old version of MediaWiki does a disservice
> to us, and their users. We don't support versions of MediaWiki that old. I
> understand that Debian backports security fixes for MediaWiki, but they
> don't backport new features, and don't backport all bug fixes. Additionally,
> Debian doesn't backport security fixes for all extensions. Not all extension
> developers bother maintaining backwards compatibility, and the only possible
> way to get security fixes is to upgrade MediaWiki and the extension.
>
> Please Debian, keep your version of MediaWiki up to date at least to the
> oldest stable release, and please send your fixes upstream when you find
> unfixed bugs.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Ryan Lane
>
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