> I'm not sure I buy this.  Why is MediaWiki so special that it can't
> exist inside of a package?  Is MediaWiki such a special piece of
> software that it's impossible to build a good package?
> 

It's "special". It isn't necessarily the fault of the distro or the package
maintainer for the quality of the packages. It is our fault. Upgrading is
unreliable for a number of reasons. It is definitely unreliable enough that
I wouldn't trust a package to do it for me, and I can't reasonably recommend
it for anyone else either.

> I think user education is going to be even more futile than package
> maintainer education.  The allure of running a system like Debian or
> Fedora is the ability to have pre-vetted software running in a
> configuration designed to work as part of a system.  I'm not here to
> start a debate about whether they are successful in achieving that,
> but it's clearly a popular enough notion that an education effort to
> counter that probably won't have much of an impact with anyone beyond
> the Slackware community.
> 
> +1 for package maintainer education (as frustrating and unproductive
> as it might be thusfar)
> 

I think it would be better if we provided the packages. If we fix our
upgrade issues, I'll be more than happy to write rpms and debs.

Respectfully,

Ryan Lane
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