Tim Starling wrote:
> OK, if you want a real answer: I think if you could convince admins to
> be nicer to people, then that would make a bigger impact to
> Wikipedia's long-term viability than any ease-of-editing feature.
> Making editing easier will give you a one-off jump in editing
> statistics, it won't address the trend.
> 
> We know from interviews and departure messages that the editing
> interface creates an initial barrier for entry, but for people who get
> past that barrier, various social factors, such as incivility and
> bureaucracy, limit the time they spend contributing.

Is there any evidence to support these claims? From what I understand, a lot
of Wikipedia's best new content is added by anonymous users.[1] Thousands
more editors are capable of registering and editing without much interaction
with the broader Wikimedia community at all. If there's evidence that mean
admins are a credible threat to long-term viability, I'd be interested to
see it.

Given that there are about 770 active administrators[2] on the English
Wikipedia and I think you could reasonably say that a good portion are not
mean, is it really quite a few people who are having this far-reaching
impact that you're suggesting exists? That seems unlikely.

> Making editing easier could actually be counterproductive. If we let
> more people past the editing interface barrier before we fix our
> social problems, then we could burn out the majority of the Internet
> population before we figure out what's going on. Increasing the number
> of new editors by a large factor will increase the anxiety level of
> admins, and thus accelerate this process.

I think the growth should be organic. With a better interface in place, a
project has a much higher likelihood of successful, healthy growth.

> One thing we can do is to reduce the sense of urgency. Further
> deployment of FlaggedRevs (pending changes) is the obvious way to do
> this. By hiding recent edits, admins can deal with bad edits in their
> own time, rather reacting in the heat of the moment.

Endless backlogs are going to draw people in? Delayed gratification is going
to keep people contributing? This proposal seems anti-wiki in a literal and
philosophical sense.

MZMcBride

[1] http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/reports/abstracts/TR2007-606/
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_administrators



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