> Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:11:08 -0500 > From: William Allen Simpson <[email protected]> > Subject: [Wikitech-l] Overzealous Commons deletionists > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I've noticed a problem with overzealous deletionists on Commons. While > this may be something of a legal and political issue, it's also > operational and affects multiple *[m,p]edias at the same time. > [snip] > > There are a number of obvious technical issues. YouTube and others > have had to handle this, it's time for us. > > 1) DMCA doesn't require a takedown until there's been a complaint. We > really shouldn't allow deletion until there's been an actual complaint. > We need technical means for recording official notices and appeals. > Informal opinions of ill-informed volunteers aren't helpful.
OTRS? This seems like a social (or potentially a legal) issue not a technical one. > 2) Fast scripting and insufficient notice lead to flapping of images, > and confusion by the owners of the documents (and the editors of > articles, as 2 days is much *much* too short for most of us). We need > something to enforce review times. Again a social issue > 3) Folks in other industries aren't monitoring Talk pages and have no > idea or sufficient notice that their photos are being deleted. The > Talk mechanism is really not a good method for anybody other than very > active wikipedians. We need better email and other social notices. Enable enotif for talk page messages by default? > > 4) We really don't have a method to "prove" that a username is actually > under control of the public figure. Hard to do. Needs discussion. Again a social issue. No amount of technical magic will be able to solve that issue. > 5) We probably could use some kind of comparison utility to help > confirm/deny a photo or article is derived from another source. That could certainly be a technical challenge, and not a trivial one. However at the end of the day we can just get a human to compare. > If there's a better place to discuss this, please indicate. Commons-l or the VP at commons since these are mostly complaints against the social practises, not technical issues. -bawolff _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
