On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Erwin Dokter <[email protected]> wrote:
> It all started with revision 105280
> (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105280), where
> Hashdar commited a new color scheme for diffs based on the French scheme.
> When this generated some flack for making "green the remove-color", I
> submitted a patch that reversed the colors
> (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33139). This was met with
> general approval.
>

General approval where? I'm not seeing it on the bug, or linked to from
the bug.

> Before it could be applied though, Brandon steps in with another patch
> (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/106884) that mixed
> the old yellow with the new blue, that looks absolutely horrible; a view in
> which I am not alone. I immediately submitted a new patch that adjusted the
> colors and levels, which is now under discussion.
>

I don't think it looks absolutely horrible. And I don't see much agreement
with that sentiment on the bug either.

> However, today Hashdar closed my bug/patch as Resolved, as he considers the
> matter closed. As the matter is clearly not, I reopened it. Now I would like
> to invite as many devs as possible to chime in at r106884 (3rd link) to
> evaluate the various options. Because if the current revision stands, and
> subsequently makes in into MediaWiki, we will have a default diff color
> scheme that will generate a guaranteed backlash form any project that uses
> MediaWiki.
>

You're catastrophizing, I highly doubt we'll get guaranteed backlash over
such a minor shift in diff colors. As they say on enwiki, [citation needed].
Also I believe you misunderstand the development process. It is iterative,
in that we keep making improvements as we find them. Just because a
revision is committed does not mean it will be the end result and further
discussion is moot.

> I'm not one to complain fast, but I now understand why develpers without
> commit access just turn around and walk away; if submittd patches that have
> approval are summarily overruled by those with commit access, there is
> really no point in continueing to submit patches.
>

It is true that developers with commit access do have the technical ability
to overrule submitted patches; we still operate within consensus. Whatever
the development community decides is best for MediaWiki as a whole--not
just enwiki, or even just WMF wikis--is what goes into the default release.

As I commented on the revision (and I'm reiterating here), I think the diff
colors as they currently stand in trunk are generally ok, maybe just need a
minor tweak in the blues.

-Chad

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