Well there's more than pushing changes upstream. Modifying/customizing
Gerri's UI is supposed to be able to be done without pushing back upstream. As
a relative novice of GWT, modifying/customizing UI in gerrit seems rather
opaque. But before I go whole hog on Phabricator, I'd have to look more into
how it handles templating and customization… I think there is a large class of
changes we might want to make that aren't so programmy as to involve using
Conduit or Arcanist to get it done.
In any case, I think at the moment Gerrit does what we want and its
finally usably fast. I'm sure off the top of my head I can think of a number of
things that keep something written in PHP (Phabricator) from matching Gerrit's
feature set (LDAP? ACLs?), and pushing upstream patches isn't high on my list
pro/con any of these systems.
But things are changing here at a rapid pace so I'm not going to say
Gerrit now, Gerrit forever. ;-)
On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:01 AM, Chad wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Terry Chay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Related is the fact that we seem to have a lot of PHP web dev
>> expertise (for some reason) and Gerrit went from Python (serviceable) to
>> Java (totally opaque). Apologies to those of you at the WMF who lurv
>> themselves some Java… all two of you… and one of you is probably the guy who
>> wrote the "case against"
>>
>
> The more I've thought about it, the less that I feel "language it's written
> in"
> really matters at all. The number of people contributing upstream is always
> going to be relatively small, and as long as those who /want/ to contribute
> upstream are comfortable with it, it could be written in Cobol for all I care.
>
> It kinda struck me the other day when the subject of bug-tracking tools
> came up again. Had we been using $SOME_OTHER_PRODUCT and
> people were advocating switching to Bugzilla, I'm sure people would
> complain "omg, it's Perl--we can't contribute upstream." But in reality,
> how many people *have* contributed upstream to Bugzilla? Most
> people file bugs in our tracker and they get re-filed upstream, which is
> perfectly fine as long as there's an upstream who responds, which in
> this case there is.
>
> I think the choice of platform matters when we're talking about "ease of
> installation/upgrading" to some degree so we don't make the ops angry,
> but that's a total non-issue with Gerrit because installation/uprgrades
> are very very easy :)
>
> -Chad
>
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