On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8 April 2013 12:51, Brad Jorsch <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the way
>> > that Wikidata is being "weaponized" as the reason for attempting to force
>> > changes in local consensus about infoboxes (their existence and content)
>> > with respect to specific article categories or even individual articles.
>>
>> Personally, I don't consider that people making spurious arguments
>> based on the existence of wikidata is a problem with the planned
>> wikidata phase 2 deployment.
>
> Why do you think those arguments are spurious?

Because they are.

"We need to change local consensus about infoboxes because of
Wikidata!" is the same as "We need to change local consensus about
reliable sources because of Wikidata!" or "We need to change local
consensus about infoboxes because of Scribunto!", or even "We need to
change local consensus about infoboxes because of IE10!". No, we
don't. It's just an excuse to argue it over again because some people
don't like the current local consensus.

> Those articles belong a lot
> more to the editors of each of the Wikipedias than they do to Wikidata, or
> Wikimedia, that's for certain.

Since you seem to have missed it the first time, I'll repeat myself:

Wikidata itself doesn't create a single infobox or add an infobox to
any article, and there is no requirement for any infobox (or any
instance of any particular infobox) to actually use the data from
wikidata.

> that there remains this cowboy attitude toward applying
> poorly developed software onto huge sites knowing full well that the
> software create significant community disruption.

Changing the colors of the diffs to be more friendly to color-blind
editors caused significant community disruption, too. Some parts of
the community will feel disrupted about basically anything.


Given the level of bad faith you're assuming here, Risker, and the
lack of reasoned arguments, I think I'll now bow out of this
subthread. Have a nice day.

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