I tend to agree that a light box or other modalish zoom should become the
default behavior.

-- brion
On May 30, 2013 5:50 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> For years, I have weeped and wailed about people adding complicated maps
> and diagrams as 220px thumbnail images to Wikipedia articles. These sort of
> images are virtually useless within an article unless they are displayed at
> relatively large sizes. Unfortunately, including them at large sizes
> creates a whole new set of problems. Namely, large images mess up the
> formatting of the page and cause headers, edit links, and other images to
> get jumbled around into strange places (or even overlapping each other on
> occasion), especially for people on tablets or other small screens. The
> problem is even worse for videos. Who wants to watch a hi-res video in a
> tiny 220px inline viewer? If there are subtitles, you can't even read them.
> But should we instead include them as giant 1280px players within the
> article? That seems like it would be obnoxious.
>
> What if instead we could mark such complicated images and high-res videos
> to be shown in modal viewers when the user clicks on them? For example:
> [[File:Highres-video1.webm|**thumb|right|modal|A high res video]]. When
> you clicked on the thumbnail, instead of going to Commons, a modal viewer
> would overlay across the screen and let you view the video/image at high
> resolution (complete with a link to Commons and the attribution
> information). Believe it or not, this capability already exists for videos
> on Wikipedia, but it's basically a hidden feature of TimedMediaHandler. If
> you include a video in a page and set the size as 200px or less, it
> activates the modal behavior. Unfortunately, the default size for videos is
> 220px (as of 2010) so you will almost never see this behavior on a real
> article. If you want to see it, go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**
> American_Sign_Language#**Variation<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language#Variation>and
>  click on one of the videos. Compare that with the video viewing
> experience at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Congenital_insensitivity_to_
> **pain <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenital_insensitivity_to_pain>.
> It's a world of difference. Now imagine that same modal behavior at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Cathedral_Peak_Granodiorite#**
> Geological_overview<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_Peak_Granodiorite#Geological_overview>and
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Battle_of_Jutland<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland>
> .
>
> Such an idea would be relatively trivial to implement. The steps would be:
> 1. Add support for a 'modal' param to the [[File:]] handler (
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/#/c/66062/<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/66062/>
> )
> 2. Add support for the 'modal' param to TimedMediaHandler (
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/#/c/66063/<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/66063/>
> )
> 3. Add support for the 'modal' param to images via some core JS module
> (not done yet)
>
> As you can see, I've already gotten started on adding this feature for
> videos via TimedMediaHandler, but I haven't done anything for images yet. I
> would like to hear people's thoughts on this potential feature and how it
> could be best implemented for images before doing anything else with it.
> What are your thoughts, concerns, ideas?
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>
>
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