I'm in Shanghai. I can access zhwiki on both mobile device and pc and I am
not redirected to https by default.

A user in Dalian reported on zhwiki he can access by https, which I think
it's a just exception.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Ryu Cheol <[email protected]> wrote:

> Now I am reading
>
> "Some users live where HTTPS is not an easy option due to explicit
> blocking by government. At the request of these communities, we made an
> explicit exclusion for users from those particular countries. Simply, users
> from China and Iran will not be required to use HTTPS to log in, nor to
> view any Wikimedia project site."
>
> I think something wrong with this.
>
> In China, I experienced to be redirected to https without seeing
> Main_Page. So I had no opportunity to login. I suppose casual users in
> China would have no chance to see the front page and will not know http is
> available. They will think Wikipedia is totally blocked by the great
> firewall.
>
> I feel we need to fix something for users in China regarding https.
>
> Cheol
>
> 2013. 9. 24., 오후 1:35, Ryu Cheol <[email protected]> 작성:
>
> > Dear Jeremy,
> >       you are right. I am back to Korea. Sorry, I cannot give you exact
> configuration I had in China.
> > At this moment, I can say that I was convinced that on mobile devices I
> can access to Wikipedia, but I can't on desktop computers. No matter what
> is behind, http or https.
> >
> > Cheol
> >
> > 2013. 9. 24., 오후 12:25, Jeremy Baron <[email protected]> 작성:
> >
> >> On Sep 23, 2013 11:09 PM, "Ryu Cheol" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> On iPad, I could not check it is http or https. You means that on
> mobile
> >> devices such as iPad, it does not redirect to https. I feel a bit, it is
> >> not consistent.
> >>
> >> If it's not consistent then that's a probably bug to be fixed. Can you
> >> provide more details and try to eliminate any variables? e.g. maybe one
> >> device had a forceHTTPS cookie set or one was logged in and one was
> not. Or
> >> they were using different uplinks.
> >>
> >>> In the region which https is not allowed, could we keep the http as the
> >> default protocol for example China?
> >>> I thought I totally lost the access. I ask we could change directing
> >> behavior according to the region the access comes from?
> >>
> >> This has been discussed many times (including many times on this list).
> You
> >> can catch up with the meta summary[0] (or links at the bottom of that
> page)
> >> or the archives of this list.
> >>
> >> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS#Excluded_Countries
> >>
> >> Ryan wrote:
> >>> Can you email me privately and let me know what your IP address is? We
> >>> actually do have something in place to not redirect logged-in users in
> >> some
> >>> regions (such as China). Maybe the geoip database we are using is
> >> incorrect
> >>> for your area.
> >>
> >> I got the impression that the trip to China was finished; we'll see
> what he
> >> says.
> >>
> >> -Jeremy
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Erick Guan/管啸 (fantasticfears)
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