Dear Chris,
now I see. Thanks!
So I need to know to get rid of the cookie that redirect to https when I travel
to China.
It is all clear.
Cheol
2013. 9. 24., 오후 10:48, Chris Steipp <[email protected]> 작성:
> On Sep 23, 2013 9:47 PM, "Ryu Cheol" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Now I am reading
>>
>> "Some users live where HTTPS is not an easy option due to explicit
> blocking by government. At the request of these communities, we made an
> explicit exclusion for users from those particular countries. Simply, users
> from China and Iran will not be required to use HTTPS to log in, nor to
> view any Wikimedia project site."
>>
>> I think something wrong with this.
>>
>> In China, I experienced to be redirected to https without seeing
> Main_Page. So I had no opportunity to login. I suppose casual users in
> China would have no chance to see the front page and will not know http is
> available. They will think Wikipedia is totally blocked by the great
> firewall.
>
> It would gave been hard to tell, but we're you logged in already on your
> laptop when you connected? If you had logged in while in Korea, then
> traveled to China, I can see how you would have experienced this. But we
> never redirect to https for logged out users.
>
> Also, can you confirm you're not using httpseverywhere?
>
>>
>> I feel we need to fix something for users in China regarding https.
>>
>> Cheol
>>
>> 2013. 9. 24., 오후 1:35, Ryu Cheol <[email protected]> 작성:
>>
>>> Dear Jeremy,
>>> you are right. I am back to Korea. Sorry, I cannot give you exact
> configuration I had in China.
>>> At this moment, I can say that I was convinced that on mobile devices I
> can access to Wikipedia, but I can't on desktop computers. No matter what
> is behind, http or https.
>>>
>>> Cheol
>>>
>>> 2013. 9. 24., 오후 12:25, Jeremy Baron <[email protected]> 작성:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 23, 2013 11:09 PM, "Ryu Cheol" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On iPad, I could not check it is http or https. You means that on
> mobile
>>>> devices such as iPad, it does not redirect to https. I feel a bit, it
> is
>>>> not consistent.
>>>>
>>>> If it's not consistent then that's a probably bug to be fixed. Can you
>>>> provide more details and try to eliminate any variables? e.g. maybe one
>>>> device had a forceHTTPS cookie set or one was logged in and one was
> not. Or
>>>> they were using different uplinks.
>>>>
>>>>> In the region which https is not allowed, could we keep the http as
> the
>>>> default protocol for example China?
>>>>> I thought I totally lost the access. I ask we could change directing
>>>> behavior according to the region the access comes from?
>>>>
>>>> This has been discussed many times (including many times on this
> list). You
>>>> can catch up with the meta summary[0] (or links at the bottom of that
> page)
>>>> or the archives of this list.
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS#Excluded_Countries
>>>>
>>>> Ryan wrote:
>>>>> Can you email me privately and let me know what your IP address is? We
>>>>> actually do have something in place to not redirect logged-in users in
>>>> some
>>>>> regions (such as China). Maybe the geoip database we are using is
>>>> incorrect
>>>>> for your area.
>>>>
>>>> I got the impression that the trip to China was finished; we'll see
> what he
>>>> says.
>>>>
>>>> -Jeremy
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