On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Mark A. Hershberger <[email protected]>wrote:
> On 10/01/2013 09:25 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > We've been moving away from being friendly to old-style shared-hosting > > servers for some time with key features that people are going to expect > to > > replicate on their MediaWikis in the future... > > Fair enough. > > If WMF were the only user of MW, you could freely decide to take MW it > whatever direction you choose. But doing that now without considering > the needs of other MW users isn't responsible. > We are considering other users here. Isn't that the point of this thread? > > Not everyone needs to run Wikipedia and it is a worthwhile effort to > make sure MediaWiki remains scalable down to the shared-hosting level. > > I disagree. I think making it scale down to the VPS level is acceptable. Should you always be able to at least *install* the bare MediaWiki on some dinky shared host? Sure. But we don't have to make promises about scaling. It's never going to scale, ever. > Before a decision like this is made (and I would like people like David > Gerard of RationalWiki to continue to weigh in, not just WMF employees), > I would like to get some actual statistics on the number of shared > hosting users. How are they running their sites? Do larger wikis have > the time and the budget to support this sort of move? > > If they're large they're not on shared hosting. It's impossible to run a large wiki on shared hosting. Also: moving? Who said anything about moving? We're talking about possibly just not caring about shared hosts so much, not actively breaking them. > Perhaps WMF should just fork off their own "enterprise" branch of MW? We do branch MediaWiki every release cycle. A full blown fork would be a bad idea. -Chad _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
