> the org has permission to use the MediaWiki name/logo/domains

Name and Logo sure -- but why domains? This shouldn't be an exclusive
thing; we should not be moving towards having only one shop offering this
service. Maybe the WMF could have some sort of 'partners' program that
handled licensing.

> MediaWiki documentation endorses the organization doing the
> hosting/support (need general consensus with the developers, many but not
> all of whom are WMF employees)

I don't think I can express how much I loathe organizations that do this.
Varnish and Adiscon (rsyslog) are two offenders that come to mind. It seems
to create an ecosystem where a new user assumes they must use the hosting
provider for an install. And/or that any new features the vendor develops
can be locked away and never documented except very sketchily in code. I
don't mind having a page on mediawiki.org that would say something along
the lines of 'if you dont want to host yourself...' but otherwise I feel
the documentation / main site should be kept as neutral as possible.



~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Brian Wolff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I know this is not your question - but officially supported by whom? I
> > would consider this massively out of scope for the wmf unless it was
> using
> > revenue from this service to subsidize wikipedia. Even then it seems
> > somewhat questionable, politically.
> >
>
> Excellent question: I'd say the key "official"ness markers of a
> hosting/support organization would be:
>
> * the org has permission to use the MediaWiki name/logo/domains (need
> agreement with WMF?)
> * MediaWiki documentation endorses the organization doing the
> hosting/support (need general consensus with the developers, many but not
> all of whom are WMF employees)
>
> I'd expect conditions of such would tend to include:
>
> * the org invests its time, money, and people back into MediaWiki
> development
>
>
> The actual organization could (maybe should?) be distinct from WMF; whether
> it could be a wholly-owned subsidiary like Mozilla's "Mozilla Corporation",
> or a separate mini-company like our MediaWiki release management team, or
> something else is something I feel needs a lot more input.
>
> -- brion
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