On 11 March 2014 15:21, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:

> > It might be easier to revamp the skin system if there were fewer skins to
> > port.
>
> Touché.
>
> So.. so 2 questions
> 1) would anyone have any objections to moving it out of core and into
> its own extension?
> 2) would anyone have any objections for turning it off on Wikimedia wikis
>
> FWIW, having a single skin in core would actually be a good thing for
> skin development. Currently writing a skin outside core is difficult -
> I found this in the development of the mobile skin. Having a leaner
> codebase in core would actually encourage better organisation to make
> things. skinStyles is a great example - if your skin is not in core,
> you can't use it.
>
>

Speaking from a user perspective, having all of 4 skins available (really?
4? That's a lot?) does make a difference in differentiating which
nearly-identical wikis one is working on, particularly if one or more of
the wikis involved are non-public ones.  Aside from Vector and Monobook,
though, I don't see a reason why they can't be extensions, as long as
they're still in the preference lists.

I strongly urge maintaining Monobook exactly the way that Vector is
maintained: it's the clear favourite of the most active users, it's
still faster after years of improving Vector, and it handles a lot of
accessibility issues much better than Vector (particularly for the visually
impaired, according to those editors I know who have to deal with this).

Risker/Anne
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