On 11 March 2014 16:02, Risker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Editors, it seems, chose Monobook 2:1 over Vector as of this time last
> year, when there were many other skins; that is, they make the conscious
> choice. (I also think there's something really wonky about the "power user"
> numbers.  There's no way there are less than 15,000 users active in the
> last six months with over 1000 edits across all of the projects.)  There's
> a lot of value in paying attention to Monobook.
>

​This is based on a mis-understanding of
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Turning_off_outdated_skins/stats.
Specifically:

One limitation of the data is that we could only retrieve users who had
> actively set a preference for their skin; users who had not done this
> displayed with a null value in the relevant table. Such users are not
> included in the numbers for Vector in the next section, which leads to an 
> *underrepresentation
> of Vector*. Based on an approximate 
> calculation,[3]<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Turning_off_outdated_skins/stats#cite_note-3>
>  this
> may *exclude up to 85 per cent of users*.


[My emphases.]​​

To put it another way, all the data shows is that of active users who'd
made over 1000 edits, 1/3 had actively changed their skin setting to Vector
and were still there at the time.

Example scenarios:

   - Users who opted-in early to Vector when Monobook was still default
   (there were lots of us back then).
   - Users who chose to go with Cologne Blue back in the day, then Simple,
   then later picked Vector.
   - Users who stayed with Classic when Monobook was introduced (*waves
   walking stick*), then later moved to Vector.

Making a linear assumption (which is also wrong) would suggest that there
were ~100,000 active users with >= 1000 edits, of whom ~90% use Vector, ~9%
use Monobook, and ~1% use Cologne Blue or Modern. 10:1 in favour of Vector
is more representative than 2:1 in favour of Monobook, though some
up-to-date data would be appreciated at some point, I'd suggest.

J.
-- 
James D. Forrester
Product Manager, VisualEditor
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

[email protected] | @jdforrester
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