Risker, I'm not saying there is not value in paying attention to Monobook. I'm saying quite the opposite.
I'm saying I _currently_ pay less attention to Monobook as I currently think of it the same way as Cologne Blue and Modern which I couldn't care less for. Take away those 2, it becomes much easier for me to pay attention to it when I develop as I now only have to think about 2 production skins. It also makes it easier to make radical skin changes that do not break either of these 2 important skins, which on the long term promotes a healthier code base for everyone. IVector in my mental model becomes the 'reader skin' and Monobook the 'editor skin'. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > On 11 March 2014 18:48, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> + 10000 to what Trevor just said. >> >> Isarra, developers make a _decision_ to forget some users exist. This >> is why Wikipedia doesn't support IE5. I am suggesting a decision that >> we forget that users of Cologne blue exist. Although it might seem >> harsh to the 98,541 readers but justified. It's just not getting any >> attention by users or developers. >> >> Based on the numbers on >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Turning_off_outdated_skins/stats - my >> personal view is if a skin isn't used by more than a million people we >> shouldn't be supporting it on Wikimedia wikis. This would actually >> mean just keeping Vector and Monobook. I for one would actually give >> more attention to Monobook in my testing if this happened. >> >> Can someone who is able to please run the stats for >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Turning_off_outdated_skins/stats >> again? >> >> > > Ummm. Readers only get Vector, unless they create an account, log in, find > their preferences, and make a conscious decision to choose another skin - > something almost no reader will do. > > Editors, it seems, chose Monobook 2:1 over Vector as of this time last > year, when there were many other skins; that is, they make the conscious > choice. (I also think there's something really wonky about the "power user" > numbers. There's no way there are less than 15,000 users active in the > last six months with over 1000 edits across all of the projects.) There's > a lot of value in paying attention to Monobook. > > Risker/Anne > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
