Yeh it's also worth pointing out that the installer does this all effortlessly.
So this is really only effecting existing users. That said I wonder if
someone could make this a more effortless step.
If the default fallback skin said 'If you are administrator please run
git submodule update' or 'composer install skin-vector' I think the
reaction might be more forgiving?


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Florian Schmidt
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hmm, now i think about that point: The "normal" third party user should 
> download the latest build of MediaWiki via the "tarball installer" [1]. In 
> this packages, Vector (and monobook as well) is still included. So the 
> "normal" third party user won't see any problem with this. The users normally 
> download MediaWiki from git are developers or persons who want to learn 
> MediaWiki development. And (that's my personal point of view), they can 
> figure out, where to get Vector (or some other skin) from and put it into the 
> installations skin folder. And if i run a composer command or git, sorry, but 
> form e it doesn't really matter if i look at the effort that needs to do this.
>
> Just my 2 cents :)
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
>
> Freundliche Grüße / Kind regards
> Florian
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Jon Robson
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. August 2014 20:29
> An: Wikimedia developers
> Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories 
> and what it means for you
>
> Ideally the fallback skin should make it easier to download a default skin 
> (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_skins is a horrible page to land 
> on). I'm currently trying to find the url for Vector E.g.
> A link to save this to your skins folder. Either that or we might want to put 
> Vector as a submodule?
>
> PS. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector needs an update.
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:18 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Exactly what I warned about. Yet another example of poor
>> thinking/execution and exactly what I predicted.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM, James HK
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just went on to `git pull --rebase origin master` on  getting MW
>>> 1.24 master and suddenly I see a "Whoops! The default skin for your
>>> wiki ($wgDefaultSkin), vector, is not available."
>>>
>>> I have to say that I'm not really interested in modifying the
>>> LocalSettings.php just to get a MW working as it used to be.
>>>
>>> I do expect when downloading MW it is at least functional and not
>>> comes with a message of "Whoops!" your missing something.
>>>
>>> The other funny thing, is the message which says: "You can paste the
>>> following lines into LocalSettings.php to enable all currently
>>> installed skins:" ( empty )
>>>
>>> So I should paste an empty message to `LocalSettings.php`, what the hell!!
>>>
>>> If you at least provide a composer download for the standard skins, I
>>> could  go on and do `composer mediawiki/vector-skin` without having
>>> the remember the location of some gerrit repo, doing some cryptic git
>>> submodule stuff or care about "mediawiki/skins/*" at all.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On 8/7/14, Bartosz Dziewoński <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > This has just happened.
>>> >
>>> > The instructions MediaWiki will display should guide you through.
>>> > Poke me on IRC if the email I send earlier and the instructions
>>> > don't help :)
>>> >
>>> > --
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