Legoktm wrote:
>On 05/04/2015 08:07 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote:
>>   * You can now chat with other users
>>     <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Conpherence> in Phabricator. [1]
>>     <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91392>
>
>Uh, why? Where was this actually discussed with more than 4 people? We
>already have IRC and mailing lists, so why do we need yet another
>communication system? Are we going to be enabling Phriction next?
>
>Please turn it off.

I briefly played around with Conpherence yesterday. I'm not sure I'd call
it chat software and I'm not sure it's intended as such. It felt like
forum software, from what I can tell.

Initial pain points/oddities:

* the conversations/threads don't auto-refresh
* every message triggers a separate e-mail notification by default
* messages can include fancier formatting, but it wasn't apparent how to
  preview a message before sending

I'm inclined to agree that e-mail and IRC (and Phabricator's Maniphest
with its quoting functionality and the wikis and the mailing lists and...)
are sufficient for Wikimedia development. That said, I can understand the
view of this being just another tool and, y'know, "if you don't like it,
don't use it" and all that. I've re-opened the discussion at
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91392> as I think whether we enable
Conpherence needs further thought and consideration.

MZMcBride

P.S. I'm also lightly reminded of Zawinski's law about every program
expanding in size until it includes e-mail. :-)



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