I'm not sure why we would be using enwiki as a model for civility, or civility enforcement ;). As said in my email, there are a lot of examples being brought up on the talk page of tech-specific or tech-centric codes of conduct. I'd suggest we avoid fragmenting the discussion and move it there; I'm sure there are elements in those which would provide the clarity you seek.
On 10 August 2015 at 12:09, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: > Just to clarify a few points: I support the concept of having a global > friendly spaces policy. I'm ambivalent and reluctant when it comes to the > particular proposal that we're discussing here. And I think that we should > keep in mind that any policy's usefulness for social change will be much > higher if it has community consensus. > > Two emails that I'm revisiting in my thought process are from Frances. I > agree that personal attacks can be demoralizing and uncivil, and they do > happen in our communities on occasion. I'm unclear about how to word a > policy that spells out how to AGF and prohibit the kind of incivility in > Oliver's example. Would it make sense, I wonder, to copy some of English > Wikipedia's highly developed policies into technical spaces like WP:NPA? > This gets us back into the rules creep and policy fragmentation problems. > Maybe that's an acceptible opportunity cost. I think there might be greater > support for a specific NPA proposal than for a broader proposal. I could > see myself voting in favor of appling English Wikipedia's WP:NPA to > technical spaces. I think that this would address a specific issue, and > could be a net positive. > > If there are other specific kinds of problems that are ongoing in technical > spaces and which would be improved by legislating policy, I would like to > hear about them. In my personal travels in technical spaces, my experience > is that the vast majority of people are civil most of the time. I think a > general statement of principles about civility could be fine. I'm curious > to hear if more legislation for technical spaces is needed than that. > Personally, I think that a global policy might work better. > > Pine > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
