> On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Gergo Tisza <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> For what it's worth, the line " For one thing, they can turn out
>> negative, in which case we will have been spared a  philosophical
>> debate about openness." comes off as very snarky and also entirely the
>> wrong approach.
> 
> 
> Debates about the Wikimedia ethos tend to be highly subjective and thus
> costly both in terms of time and emotional resources. Measuring whether
> banners work is fairly simple and objective. It makes sense to perform the
> cheapest prerequisite checks first, to minimize total cost.

        Part of the cost of business in being transparent and actually _having_ 
an ethos is that these conversations need to be had, regardless of their cost.

        And I seriously doubt that there's any benefit to these banner ads at 
all.  Converting a small number of people from using the web version to an app 
version is meaningless when operating at this scale.  We're actually probably 
_reducing_ the number of readers overall because many will simply say "screw 
this if you're serving me interstitials".

        This was a bad idea.  It remains a bad idea.  It looks bad on the 
movement.

---
Brandon Harris :: [email protected] :: made of steel wool and whiskey




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