Perhaps I should clarify why this is a problem. In fully responsive
skins, you generally have separate stylesheets for desktop, mobile,
really big desktop, whatever in order to keep the CSS rules simple and
not redundant (to avoid having mobile overriding desktop rules or visa
versa, you just only send the mobile styles to mobile, the desktop to
desktop). You do this by setting maximum and minimum screen sizes in the
@media queries, but the problem is, IE8 does not support this, and will
not load a stylesheet at all if these sizes are set. So you need to give
it the desktop styles some other way, without the @media size rules present.
While it is possible to simply add CSS to the page header using
outputPage, probably bypassing RL and all that entirely, this only works
with CSS, not LESS, because all the LESS magic is happening within RL.
So without RL, that means you need to render your desktop stylesheet
into CSS for this, which means you now need to maintain it in two
different places even though it's the same rules in both.
Using js got around this whole problem as with that you can simply check
the browser there and then conditionally mw.loader.load a size-free
module for IE8.
Is there any other way around this?
On 12/11/15 02:56, Isarra Yos wrote:
Is there a way to conditionally load RL modules for folks using IE8?
Because I couldn't figure out any proper way to do that in my skins
and I've just been using js to do it instead as a result.
But that's not going to work anymore. But it's also stupid regardless.
On 12/11/15 02:11, Krinkle wrote:
Hey all,
Starting in January 2016, MediaWiki will end JavaScript support for
Microsoft Internet Explorer 8. This raises the cut-off up from MSIE 7.
Users with this browser will still be able to browse, edit, and
otherwise
contribute to the site. However, some features will not be available to
them. For example, the enhanced edit toolbar will not appear, and the
notification buttons will take you to a page rather than a pop-out.
This change will affect roughly 0.89% of all traffic to Wikimedia
wikis (as
of October 2015). For comparison, 0.33% of traffic comes from Internet
Explorer 6, and 1.46% from Internet Explorer 7. Support for these was
dropped in August and September 2014 respectively.
Providing JavaScript for IE 8 adds a significant maintenance burden. It
also bloats the software we ship to all users, without proportionate
benefit. This enables us to simplify and streamline the JavaScript
codebase
for all other users. Users unable to upgrade from Internet Explorer 8
will
have a faster experience going forward, based on well-tested and more
stable code.
This change will land in the development branch in January, and so
will be
part of MediaWiki 1.27 (to be released around May 2016).
Tech News will announce this change as well, but please help carry this
message into your communities. In January, we will send a reminder
before
the change happens.
Yours,
-- Krinkle
For details about the JavaScript-less experience, see
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility
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