On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Rob Lanphier <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Alex Monk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > To clarify - are you saying this ([deploying increasingly excellent
> > software on the Wikimedia production cluster in a consensus-oriented
> > manner]) is the actual current scope of ArchCom, or are you advocating
> for
> > a change in scope?
>
>
> It's my attempt to clarify the scope, but you could argue it's a change.
>
> Ultimately, WMF TechOps has correctly blocked a lot of software making it
> to the Wikimedia cluster that hasn't been through the RFC process, even
> though they themselves weren't entirely clear about the scope.  Wikimedia
> Foundation leadership has an (unfortunately) long history of being unclear
> about the scope.  I share the blame for this.  This is my attempt to
> clarify.
>

Perhaps you could elaborate on the "WMF TechOps" aspect a bit, either here
in email or on the Phab ticket.  It seems that some of the tasks currently
tagged as "RfCs" are actually not ArchCom RfCs (they are
WikiData-related?).  From your description above, it seems there may also
be some not-quite-ArchCom RfCs related to what software gets deployed on
our cluster.

Perhaps we should try to come up with more fine-grained labels for RfCs,
rather than labelling them all "ArchCom RfCs"?   I think there was some
discussion at the dev summit about trying to associate proposals with the
dev summit "working groups", as a way of communicating a broad agenda for
each ArchCom meeting.  Finer-grained RfC labeling might be part and parcel
of this.

  --scott (who isn't opposed to the proposed relabeling in any way, just
thinking perhaps this is an opportunity for better classification)
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