On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Greg Grossmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
> <quote name="Alex Monk" date="2016-01-28" time="19:07:09 +0000"> > > On 28 January 2016 at 18:53, Rob Lanphier <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is especially true given that ArchComm really has absolutely no > say > > > > in resourcing and a given feature may not have secured funding > (people, > > > > hardware etc.) > > > > > > > > > > Awww....you're mail was so great, and then you ended with this! Are > you > > > saying that the only real power in this world belongs to people with > > > control of the money? > > > > > > He wouldn't be the only one who thinks this. I've seen other people with > > similar concerns about whether ArbComm is really in control or whether > WMF > > management is, because it's WMF management that actually gets to decide > > what the paid Wikimedia developers (probably the majority of active > > developers at this point) work on. I'm inclined to agree with them. > > This is similar to the concern/line of reasoning that lead to all of the > questions about whether or not "WMF senior leadership" will be in active > attendance at the Dev Summit. > Also, Wes Moran gave the keynote, and didn't say anything to contradict what I said in my email. Is there something I missed there? Generally speaking, the position WMF executive management has taken in the conversations that I've had is that WMF needs to do a better job listening to the community. Saying that ArchCom has "no say" basically is taking a needlessly fatalistic stance of a mindless wage slave. I know y'all well enough to know that everyone on this thread is intensely mission-driven, and "mindless" is about as far from a truthful description anyone could give. ArchCom strives to define what we should do, based on listening to the community and using our collective expertise to craft a vision based on what we learn. What "WMF senior leadership" (pls define) does with that information is probably not in scope for this mailing list. Rob _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
