Thank you for this e-mail. It was informative. Stas Malyshev wrote: >No, and there are tricky parts there. Consider >https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q735712. Yes, Lex Luthor held the office >of the President of the USA. In a fictional universe, of course. But the >naive query - every Wikidata item where position held includes "President >of the United States" - would return Lex Luthor as the president as >legitimate as Abraham Lincoln. In fact, there are 79 US presidents >judging by "position held" alone. So clearly, there need to be some >limits. And those limits would be on case-by-case basis.
Sure, but I'm not really worried about potential false positives. I'm worried that we're building a giant write-only data store. >Right now the best way is use one of the list-maintaining bots I think. This sucks. :-( >Unless you're talking about pulling a small set of values, in which case >Lua/templates are probably the best venue. I'm not sure what small means here. We have about 46 U.S. Presidents, is that small enough? Which Lua functions and templates could I use? >We're working on it (mostly thinking right now, but correct design is >80% of the work, so...). Visualizations already have query capabilities >(mainly because they have strong caching model embedded and because >there are not too many of them and you need to create them so we can >watch the load carefully). Other pages can gain them - probably via some >kind of Lua functionality - as soon as we figure out what's the right >way to do it, hopefully somewhere within the next year (no promise, but >hopefully). Wikidata began in October 2012. I thought it might take till 2014 or even 2015 to get querying capability into a usable state, but we're now looking at potentially 2018? This really sucks. I think Wikidata may eventually have a seismic shift on wiki editing, but currently I don't see any reason to even contribute to it when it feels like putting data into a giant system that you can't really get back out. I love Magnus and I have a ton of respect for him, but I don't want anything to do with anything called Listeria. It continues to seem like querying is an afterthought for Wikidata and this continues to boggle my mind. MZMcBride _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
