Correct me if I'm wrong but I think If someone has +2 rights before joining
WMF, leaving WMF is not a reason to remove rights at all. If there was a
case someone abuse their power and gets fired because of that. "The abuse"
should be the reason to lose the right not "leaving WMF"/"being fired"/etc..

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On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:35 AM Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To be clear, i think some common sense should apply - e.g. If someone was
> fired for trying to put a backdoor in MW they shouldnt automatically get
> their rights back.
>
> But generally speaking if they were trusted before WMF, I trust they have
> the maturity after WMF to use their rights appropriately even if they are
> angry or whatever. If that trust was misguided their rights can easily be
> removed later (this is +2 not shell we are talking about after all).
>
> --
> Brian
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017, Kevin Smith <ksm...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > I support restoring the rights in this case, but I'm not sure it should
> be
> > automatic in all cases. If having +2 rights is relatively harmless and
> > reversible, then an automatic (but announced) restoration of the rights
> > should be fine.
> >
> > The issue is that someone who leaves the foundation could do so under
> > unfriendly terms, possibly affecting their ability to do good work. I
> know
> > we don't want to think that a previously productive volunteer could later
> > cause problems, but it is possible.
> >
> > That's why I think there should be some form of check, so we have
> > confidence that this person still has good intentions. For example, their
> > manager and/or someone from Talent & Culture could be consulted, or
> trusted
> > people who still have close contact with the person so know their state
> of
> > mind. It could be quick and lightweight, in almost all cases, but
> skipping
> > that step entirely seems risky to me. Unless, as I said, having +2 really
> > isn't a big deal.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Smith
> > Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Subramanya Sastry <
> ssas...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/25/2017 10:04 AM, Brian Wolff wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017, Legoktm <legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> After speaking with Yurik, I've filed
> >>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156219> on his behalf to restore
> his
> >>>> membership in the mediawiki and maps-dev groups.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would appreciate guidance in whether these rights can be summarily
> >>>> granted since he used to have them, or if it needs to go through the
> >>>> full process.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Legoktm
> >>>>
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> >>> I support doing this automatically in any similar situation in the
> future.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> brian
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1.
> >>
> >> Subbu.
> >>
> >>
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