On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Alex Monk <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 25 January 2017 at 19:48, Kevin Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I support restoring the rights in this case, but I'm not sure it should
> be
> > automatic in all cases. If having +2 rights is relatively harmless and
> > reversible, then an automatic (but announced) restoration of the rights
> > should be fine.
> >
> > The issue is that someone who leaves the foundation could do so under
> > unfriendly terms, possibly affecting their ability to do good work. I
> know
> > we don't want to think that a previously productive volunteer could later
> > cause problems, but it is possible.
> >
> > That's why I think there should be some form of check, so we have
> > confidence that this person still has good intentions. For example, their
> > manager and/or someone from Talent & Culture could be consulted, or
> trusted
> > people who still have close contact with the person so know their state
> of
> > mind. It could be quick and lightweight, in almost all cases, but
> skipping
> > that step entirely seems risky to me. Unless, as I said, having +2 really
> > isn't a big deal.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Smith
> > Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
> >
>
> You don't appear to be a developer. Even if you were, Brian said 'similar
> situation' - i.e., where someone had been granted rights before becoming
> WMF staff.
>

Someone's familiarity with the topic is certainly relevant, but let's not
fall into the trap of "you're not a core developer, therefore you shouldn't
be posting to this list." In this specific case, Kevin is an expert in the
social dynamics of technical teams (enough so that he's employed by the WMF
for that expertise). That doesn't mean you have to agree with him, but it
does mean you should at least consider his input (not to mention respect
him as you would any community member making good faith suggestions).

-- 
Neil P. Quinn <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Neil_P._Quinn-WMF>,
product analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
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