> On Sep 19, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Gilles Dubuc <[email protected]> wrote: > > Should we have a TechComm-driven meeting about this ASAP? > > Like others, I don't expect that there will be disagreement about the way > to go, but there is a lot to discuss about what needs to be done, > resourcing, etc. > > It would be nice to have Ori around for it, to pick his brains about any > undocumented or little-known knowledge about the HHVM migration that could > bite us when migrating to PHP 7.x if we don't know about it. > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:13:47AM +1000, Tim Starling wrote: >>> On 19/09/17 06:58, Max Semenik wrote: >>>> Today, the HHVM developers made an announcement[1] that they have >> plans of >>>> ceasing to maintain 100% PHP7 compatibility and concentrating on Hack >>>> instead. >>> >>> The HHVM team did tell us privately that they were planning on >>> changing their strategy, basically as you describe it above. The >>> surprising things for me in this announcement were: >>> >>> * The plan to also drop PHP 5 compatibility, on a short timeline (1 >> year). >>> * Rather than "drifting away" from PHP, their top priority plans >>> include removing core language features like references and destructors. >>> >>>> While this does not mean that we need to take an action immediately, >>>> eventually we will have to decide something. >>> >>> Actually, I think a year is a pretty short time for ops to switch to >>> PHP 7. I think we need to decide on this pretty much immediately. >> >> The next step would be the upgrade of the mw* fleet to Debian stretch >> while still using HHVM 3.18 (to minimise disruption since we've stabilised >> 3.18 in it's current build). That work is tracked at T174431. 3.18 will >> be supported by upstream for at least another six months (and if the >> migration drags >> further I can roll custom 3.18 security backports from later LTS releases) >> >> Debian stretch ships PHP7, so that'd be a good stepstone to migrate >> back to Zend. >> >> Cheers, >> Moritz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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