Hi everyone,

Andre, It is really good to see a major transformation in recent years.
Since I am part of this transformation, I can say that it is already really
going in a very good direction. But few things to note:

1. *Lack of staff*: WMF's Developer Advocacy has 6 staff for the globe. I
had a recent experience with Google India's Developer Relations team. They
had 5-8 members, just for a single county. I know comparison should have
other factors as well but the gap is too far. Even Mozilla is outnumbering
us. Another thing that I also noticed is that some WMF staff are part of
multiple teams.

2. *No Wikimedia outreach program*: As far as I know WMF does not run its
own outreach program. We are/were the only participant organization in
various programs like Outreachy, Google Summer of Code, and Google Code-In.
Wikimedia itself is a big name so we can attract many students with
Wikimedia internship certificates without any stipend expenses.

3. *No partnership with the external organization*: As far as I know WMF
did not collaborate with external organizations regarding technical
partnerships and campaigns. Last year, two profit organizations, Intel and
DigitalOcean, organized Hacktoberfest, an amazing month of open source
love. They got 294,451 accept pull requests for open source projects.
Profit organizations are running campaigns for open source software but we
can't. (I know they have an advertisement factor but the point is open
source campaigns). Why can't we?

I am not blaming anything on the current Developer Advocacy team. I worked
with many members very closely as a volunteer. They are already working to
their full capacity. But upper management has to break the glass.
Otherwise, we will just fix/mingle with current problems within a single
bubble.

Regards,


Jay Prakash,
Volunteer Developer

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:46 PM Andre Klapper <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 13:30 +0000, Inductiveload wrote:
> > [5] Developer Advocacy is a team that exists, but at least in my
> > personal experience, I have never actually encountered it, except for
> > bug wrangling.
>
> If you're interested in what that (my) team is doing, I recommend
> checking out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy
>
> Spoiler: Improving Small Wiki Toolkits, working on a Developer Portal
> and improving related technical docs, organizing Outreach Programs,
> maintaining Community Metrics, sorting out the next Hackathon, helping
> with the Coolest Tool Award (which happened two weeks ago), etc...
>
> Hope that provides a bit of an impression? :)
>
> Cheers,
> andre
> --
> Andre Klapper (he/him) | Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate
> https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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