While i'm sure there is always more that can be done in terms of attracting new devs, i don't think that's really where we have the problem. We have lots of interested people. Enwiki is basically a huge captive audience of interested people.
I think the problem lies more in the developer experience after people join. It is politically difficult to get stuff merged with long lag times. That's frustrating to people who want to fix bugs as opposed to play politics, and its really difficult for outsiders who don't have the internal social connections, not to mention the time availability to always be responsive as opposed to just being available to contribute a couple hours on the weekend. -- Bawolff On Friday, January 28, 2022, Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Andre, It is really good to see a major transformation in recent years. > Since I am part of this transformation, I can say that it is already really > going in a very good direction. But few things to note: > > 1. *Lack of staff*: WMF's Developer Advocacy has 6 staff for the globe. I > had a recent experience with Google India's Developer Relations team. They > had 5-8 members, just for a single county. I know comparison should have > other factors as well but the gap is too far. Even Mozilla is outnumbering > us. Another thing that I also noticed is that some WMF staff are part of > multiple teams. > > 2. *No Wikimedia outreach program*: As far as I know WMF does not run its > own outreach program. We are/were the only participant organization in > various programs like Outreachy, Google Summer of Code, and Google Code-In. > Wikimedia itself is a big name so we can attract many students with > Wikimedia internship certificates without any stipend expenses. > > 3. *No partnership with the external organization*: As far as I know WMF > did not collaborate with external organizations regarding technical > partnerships and campaigns. Last year, two profit organizations, Intel and > DigitalOcean, organized Hacktoberfest, an amazing month of open source > love. They got 294,451 accept pull requests for open source projects. > Profit organizations are running campaigns for open source software but we > can't. (I know they have an advertisement factor but the point is open > source campaigns). Why can't we? > > I am not blaming anything on the current Developer Advocacy team. I worked > with many members very closely as a volunteer. They are already working to > their full capacity. But upper management has to break the glass. > Otherwise, we will just fix/mingle with current problems within a single > bubble. > > Regards, > > > Jay Prakash, > Volunteer Developer > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:46 PM Andre Klapper <aklap...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 13:30 +0000, Inductiveload wrote: >> > [5] Developer Advocacy is a team that exists, but at least in my >> > personal experience, I have never actually encountered it, except for >> > bug wrangling. >> >> If you're interested in what that (my) team is doing, I recommend >> checking out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy >> >> Spoiler: Improving Small Wiki Toolkits, working on a Developer Portal >> and improving related technical docs, organizing Outreach Programs, >> maintaining Community Metrics, sorting out the next Hackathon, helping >> with the Coolest Tool Award (which happened two weeks ago), etc... >> >> Hope that provides a bit of an impression? :) >> >> Cheers, >> andre >> -- >> Andre Klapper (he/him) | Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate >> https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l. >> lists.wikimedia.org/ > >
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