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2010/1/31 Juan de Vojníkov <[email protected]>

> Ah,
>
> thanks for replies Daniel. Now its clear to me.
>
>
> Juan
>
> 2010/1/30 Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>
>
> Hi Juan
>>
>> Juan de Vojníkov schrieb:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > If we are talking about billing, I would say that cheapest way is to
>> rent a
>> > server for one or 2 years. So would it be a problem for WMDE to offer us
>> > support for one year?
>>
>> Can you show me the different offers? How much cheaper would it be to rent
>> for 1
>> year in advance, or even for 2?
>>
>> Again, this is for Pavel to decide, but the larget the advance commitment,
>> the
>> greater the reluctance. I imagine that this would get easier once we see
>> the
>> project actually taking off. We have, err, mixed experiences with this
>> kind of
>> thing.
>>
>> > Also to send a reports every 3 month means the reports
>> > will be very simillar.
>>
>> No problem. The point of the reports is to track activity and progress. We
>> are
>> liable to our donors, we have to document that we kame good use of the
>> money the
>> give us.
>>
>>
>> > And one more comment from me. If I analyze conditions: *The server hosts
>> only
>> >  projects, software, etc. which are for the Wikimedia community - hope
>> that
>> > WMDE understand, that Wikiversity is a place to host different
>> communities of
>> >  learners and teachers. It means, there might be group of students from
>> > different schools etc. using Wikiversity to fulfill their real life
>> education
>> >  goals within our projects. So my question would be if these are
>> understand
>> > as Wikimedia community and if they can also operate on SS?
>>
>> Heh, more policy questions - I'm the tech guy :P AS far as I understand,
>> it
>> would be fine to do anything there that is compatible with the goals and
>> mission
>> of wikimedia in general and wikiversity specifically. So, I suppose the
>> projects
>> should revolve about sharing knowledge, i.e. free content and open access.
>> But
>> they don't have to be limited to the actual wiki community.
>>
>> basically, this requirement is to make sure that folks don't run a quake
>> server
>> or a spam relay there. So, how about this:
>>
>> You come up with a mission statment and general rules for projects, and
>> WMDE
>> signs off on it.
>>
>>
>> > o Our ideas for the next three months (which extensions, software, etc.
>> > should be develop, which software should test, etc.) - this might be
>> hard to
>> > say, but as I commented before, Wikiversity core community is quite
>> small. So
>> >  every 3 month the report will be very similar. And if well stay with
>> the
>> > original idea that SS is open to all Wikiversity participants in all
>> > languages with some core administrators, I think it might be difficult
>> to
>> > say, what for example is this or that person planning to deploy next
>> month.
>>
>> Well, it should be possible to come up with a plan. If you don't have any
>> idea
>> what you want to do, why start? So I suppose you do have some ideas. Just
>> write
>> them down!
>>
>> It's not a requirement that you stick to the plan. We just want to know
>> what you
>> want to do, and what is actually happening. That's all. If the report is
>> very
>> similar every time - well, I'd hope that there's at least some progress in
>> development and deployment, maybe some figures like number of users, of
>> tools,
>> of page views, etc.
>>
>> The report doesn't need to be entertaining, boring is fine with us :)
>>
>> -- daniel
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