Hi Leigh,

yes, there is a page on Wikiversity Beta:
http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Sandbox_Server

Juan

2010/2/1 Leigh Blackall <[email protected]>

> Is this discussion taking place on the Wiki somewhere too?
>
> 2010/1/31 Juan de Vojníkov <[email protected]>
>
> Ah,
>>
>> thanks for replies Daniel. Now its clear to me.
>>
>>
>> Juan
>>
>> 2010/1/30 Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]>
>>
>> Hi Juan
>>>
>>> Juan de Vojníkov schrieb:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > If we are talking about billing, I would say that cheapest way is to
>>> rent a
>>> > server for one or 2 years. So would it be a problem for WMDE to offer
>>> us
>>> > support for one year?
>>>
>>> Can you show me the different offers? How much cheaper would it be to
>>> rent for 1
>>> year in advance, or even for 2?
>>>
>>> Again, this is for Pavel to decide, but the larget the advance
>>> commitment, the
>>> greater the reluctance. I imagine that this would get easier once we see
>>> the
>>> project actually taking off. We have, err, mixed experiences with this
>>> kind of
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> > Also to send a reports every 3 month means the reports
>>> > will be very simillar.
>>>
>>> No problem. The point of the reports is to track activity and progress.
>>> We are
>>> liable to our donors, we have to document that we kame good use of the
>>> money the
>>> give us.
>>>
>>>
>>> > And one more comment from me. If I analyze conditions: *The server
>>> hosts only
>>> >  projects, software, etc. which are for the Wikimedia community - hope
>>> that
>>> > WMDE understand, that Wikiversity is a place to host different
>>> communities of
>>> >  learners and teachers. It means, there might be group of students from
>>> > different schools etc. using Wikiversity to fulfill their real life
>>> education
>>> >  goals within our projects. So my question would be if these are
>>> understand
>>> > as Wikimedia community and if they can also operate on SS?
>>>
>>> Heh, more policy questions - I'm the tech guy :P AS far as I understand,
>>> it
>>> would be fine to do anything there that is compatible with the goals and
>>> mission
>>> of wikimedia in general and wikiversity specifically. So, I suppose the
>>> projects
>>> should revolve about sharing knowledge, i.e. free content and open
>>> access. But
>>> they don't have to be limited to the actual wiki community.
>>>
>>> basically, this requirement is to make sure that folks don't run a quake
>>> server
>>> or a spam relay there. So, how about this:
>>>
>>> You come up with a mission statment and general rules for projects, and
>>> WMDE
>>> signs off on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> > o Our ideas for the next three months (which extensions, software, etc.
>>> > should be develop, which software should test, etc.) - this might be
>>> hard to
>>> > say, but as I commented before, Wikiversity core community is quite
>>> small. So
>>> >  every 3 month the report will be very similar. And if well stay with
>>> the
>>> > original idea that SS is open to all Wikiversity participants in all
>>> > languages with some core administrators, I think it might be difficult
>>> to
>>> > say, what for example is this or that person planning to deploy next
>>> month.
>>>
>>> Well, it should be possible to come up with a plan. If you don't have any
>>> idea
>>> what you want to do, why start? So I suppose you do have some ideas. Just
>>> write
>>> them down!
>>>
>>> It's not a requirement that you stick to the plan. We just want to know
>>> what you
>>> want to do, and what is actually happening. That's all. If the report is
>>> very
>>> similar every time - well, I'd hope that there's at least some progress
>>> in
>>> development and deployment, maybe some figures like number of users, of
>>> tools,
>>> of page views, etc.
>>>
>>> The report doesn't need to be entertaining, boring is fine with us :)
>>>
>>> -- daniel
>>>
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