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On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 06:56:39 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed;

The computer has 98 SE. I tell people that I will copy and sell them a
Windows CD of the same version they have on their computer

Why would you need to sell them a Windows CD at all if they have a valid installation. Then as an add'l service you'll pull their existing key? Even these people had a restore CD the installation files were there & you didn't have to sell them anything except the service of pulling their existing key & how to extract the Windows files from the restore CD. Some restore CDs are easier to pull the raw windows install files than others but there hasn't been a one that I could not do this with. That's the whole problem. You hate restore CDs & while I'm not fan I don't sell them another copy of Windows.

I realize the post of yours I quoted is 4yrs old but I sincerely doubt that you've changed your policy & you've even typed that onto this list as if you're trying to convince us that your policy is the best yet no one else in the past 10yrs has seen fit to do the same. I wonder who's conscience you're trying to appease? Heck you've even sent your work order to this list when this list is not a list for mom/pop shops business problems but rather to help people to get the most out of their existing machines. Sorry but we don't care about your OEM business problems here.

When Microsoft quits allowing this carry forward (Windows and CPU mated) upon installations of new motherboards, then I will begin selling Windows XP OEM kits to get these jobs done. Until then I will save the customer that $90.00.

The point is that in most cases people don't need a Andrews Computer Services rebuilt machine so how are you saving them any money? <IMNSHO> The new rule as you incorrectly stated & according to MSFT is only for "the Windows Desktop licensing policy have been in effect for the last 10years." The link you provided does NOT reference to any MSFT site.

According to <http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Microsoft_changes_OEM_license%2C_forcing_new_purchases_after_motherboard_upgrade>

Microsoft has recently made changes to the Windows license agreement, saying that "An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a new personal computer to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer."

I assume that their quoted material is from MSFT & even then it does NOT state that "Windows and CPU mated" but specifically states mombo. Wikinews goes on to state that

Microsoft claims it needs to have "one base component left standing that would still define that original PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the heart and soul of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created."

What happens when one upgrades just their CPU? or just their mombo? If it's as you claim if I upgrade my CPU then I need a new license but that's not what any of this stuff states. I plan on upgraded just the CPU on this system but I have no intentions of getting another license but I am considering building a new system with a new cheapie mombo & the old CPU in which case I plan on using another license. So if you ask me it's the mombo with all it's integrated components that decided whether a new license it required. If this is the case when you call in the next time you take a CPU from a name brand machine & put it in your favorite Asus mombos then you would be in violation unless the original mombo is defective. The MSFT rep could ask why you didn't send for a replacement mombo but I doubt that MSFT will give you much trouble either way like they did before. All MSFT has done is to somewhat & not completely clarify because they're MSFT what constitutes a new machine.

Why volunteer information when on the phone with Microsoft? If they were to ask me I would name each and every new component I am installing and which ones are being carried forward. Upon my attempt to authenticate I am sure the DNA of the rebuild job was sent to them anyway. Perhaps that is why they do not ask when on the phone.

Again you're branching out as no one has stated anything in this thread about getting the machines activated or calling MSFT.


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   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
<http://www.wavijo.com>
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