On 5 Jun 2006 at 0:27, Kylde wrote:

> I think you're all mad, I'd *NEVER EVER* trust my base fortunes to 
> someone online. A paypal account with a low balance yes, a cc with the 
> same, yes, but not to the extent of quicken etc, I'm continually being 
> called old-fashioned by my mates, but they'll get shafted before i do
> 
> Wayne Johnson wrote on 04/06/2006, 22:25:
> 
>  > >Can you use Quicken to pay bills on future dates, or to check your
>  > >current balances, all without leaving your home computer turned on
>  > >while you're away on vacation or a business trip?
>  > >The flexibility of online banking/BillPay is that I can use it from
>  > >anywhere in the world.
>  >
>  > Yes sir

Well, one has to balance risk and reward -- there aren't any absolute 
rules or standards for this sort of thing.  There are people who 
absolutely won't use credit cards because that allows their activities to 
be too easily tracked and correlated and are worried sick about credit 
card fraud (which credit card companies have done a masterful job of spin-
controlling to get people to think is "identity theft", which it isn't), 
and others who will only use cash for everything [I tried that once on a 
business trip -- let me tell you it is beaucoup hard renting a car if you 
don't have a credit card..:o)].

For me, for example, I don't use ANY of quicken.com's online services -- 
I didn't particularly want Quicken to have my financial stuff, but I 
trust my bank [through whom I get my online bill pay], so that's within 
my risk threshhold, and the convenience is super [by my standards].  Your 
MMV on both sides of that equation.

Note that I did the same that you did with paypal: I happened to have an 
account I don't use for anything, so I put $20 in it and use THAT as my 
paypal "verification" acct [but I use my credit card only, never a direct-
withdrawal, so the $20 just sits there].

And then there's online shopping -- that's an area of risk that I'm 
pretty comfortable with but that others fret about: using their credit 
card over the internet gives them the willies [and that harks back to a 
previous generation who had similar fears about using their credit card 
over the phone].

By contrast, for example, I know many people who have no qualms about 
using gmail for all of their email, but I wouldn't *THINK* of doing such 
a thing and having all of my [personal and business] email on a basically 
public server.  You may trust Googol and gmail, but I don't...

Clearly, we all have our own security taboos...:o)

  /Bernie\

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