On Friday 13 July 2001 09:32 am, Raymond Shwake methodically organized 
electrons to state:

>
>       I wanted to try Mandrake as an alternative to RH 7.1 on my
> dual-CPU desktop, but discovered, as the NeTraverse-provided SMP
> kernel was installing, that Reiser FS is not included in the kernel.
> Since that's what I'm running, the kernel is useless. When might we
> see such an obvious feature supported (heck, it's one reason I'm
> considering Mandrake)? Or must we once again roll our own kernel?


I, too, was surprised that the reiserfs module is not included in the 
Win4Lin/Mandrake SMP kernel.

While I certainly appreciate the efforts of NeTraverse in supplying 
pre-compiled kernels for Mandrake 8.0, neither are "drop-in" replacements for 
Mandrake 8.0 machines.  It seems that they do not patch Mandrake sources, but 
use generic kernel sources. In this manner, some of the Mandrake features 
(which include the Alan Cox patches, reiserfs and supermount) probably aren't 
in there. My understanding is that the Mandrake patches and the Win4Lin patch 
conflict somehow; I have been unsuccessful in patching the Mandrake sources 
for Win4Lin and getting the resulting kernel sources to compile.

One of the missing enhancements is reiserfs and that does cause considerable 
difficulty since, as it is in this case, reiserfs is a significant reason 
many people choose Mandrake over it's cousin, RedHat. At the very least, the 
Win4Lin kernel should include an initrd that loads the reiserfs module (when 
the Win4Lin kernel. If it's not needed, it can be disabled in lilo.conf. 
Attempts to use an already existing initrd cause problems.

I realize that Mandrake does some "special" things in the process of 
compiling their own kernels and they are not very forthcoming with many 
details about the process, but it seems that the goal of NeTraverse should be 
to compile as close to "drop-in" as possible. 

In a similar vein, I do not believe that  NeTraverse should be expected to 
supply working patches for the kernel-of-the-day, just the kernel version 
that ships with the distro. That kernel should be a drop-in replacement, 
however (no versioning problems, no error messages when loading, built from 
the Mandrake-patched sources). 

Also, it would be nice for NeTraverse to provide the sources as well (isn't 
that required by the GPL anyway?).

Hoyt




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