Hoyt wrote:
>
> On Friday 13 July 2001 09:32 am, Raymond Shwake methodically organized
> electrons to state:
>
> >
> > I wanted to try Mandrake as an alternative to RH 7.1 on my
> > dual-CPU desktop, but discovered, as the NeTraverse-provided SMP
> > kernel was installing, that Reiser FS is not included in the kernel.
> > Since that's what I'm running, the kernel is useless. When might we
> > see such an obvious feature supported (heck, it's one reason I'm
> > considering Mandrake)? Or must we once again roll our own kernel?
>
> I, too, was surprised that the reiserfs module is not included in the
> Win4Lin/Mandrake SMP kernel.
>
> While I certainly appreciate the efforts of NeTraverse in supplying
> pre-compiled kernels for Mandrake 8.0, neither are "drop-in" replacements for
> Mandrake 8.0 machines. It seems that they do not patch Mandrake sources, but
> use generic kernel sources. In this manner, some of the Mandrake features
> (which include the Alan Cox patches, reiserfs and supermount) probably aren't
> in there. My understanding is that the Mandrake patches and the Win4Lin patch
> conflict somehow; I have been unsuccessful in patching the Mandrake sources
> for Win4Lin and getting the resulting kernel sources to compile.
>
> One of the missing enhancements is reiserfs and that does cause considerable
> difficulty since, as it is in this case, reiserfs is a significant reason
> many people choose Mandrake over it's cousin, RedHat. At the very least, the
> Win4Lin kernel should include an initrd that loads the reiserfs module (when
> the Win4Lin kernel. If it's not needed, it can be disabled in lilo.conf.
> Attempts to use an already existing initrd cause problems.
>
> I realize that Mandrake does some "special" things in the process of
> compiling their own kernels and they are not very forthcoming with many
> details about the process, but it seems that the goal of NeTraverse should be
> to compile as close to "drop-in" as possible.
>
> In a similar vein, I do not believe that NeTraverse should be expected to
> supply working patches for the kernel-of-the-day, just the kernel version
> that ships with the distro. That kernel should be a drop-in replacement,
> however (no versioning problems, no error messages when loading, built from
> the Mandrake-patched sources).
>
> Also, it would be nice for NeTraverse to provide the sources as well (isn't
> that required by the GPL anyway?).
>
> Hoyt
>
We are aware of some problems with the Mandrake 8.0 kernel and reiser. These
kernels are meant to be a drop-in replacement, but are not working as expected,
and our kernel developers are working on the issue. Because of problems with
kernel versioning in the kernels that ship with Red Hat 7.1 and Mandrake 8, our
original kernels for these included the modules. In an attempt to decrease the
kernel size to something less than 1 MB (the with-modules kernels are around
9MB), something got broke in loading the modules.
All of our distribution-specific kernels are built on the distribution's source
code. We also offer pre-patched kernels on our website that are based on
generic kernels. In addition, we offer the patch files for each
distribution-specific kernel we support. These patch files are plain text, and
you can look through them to see what we change in the kernel source. Our
kernel patches are available from our website at:
http://www.netraverse.com/member/downloads/kernel_patch.php
As I said, we are aware of the problems with reiser in the Mandrake 8 kernels
and are working on solving the problem. In the meantime, the best work-around
for this would be to patch your Mandrake source with our Win4Lin patch for it.
The patch can be found at the above website, and there is a link on the site to
instructions on how to apply it.
Regards,
Amanda
--
Amanda Owens
Support Engineer
NeTraverse, Inc.
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