I added some information to the runtime comparison. Still busy with some other activities today but can talk a bit more tomorrow in the chat.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo<[email protected]> wrote: > Martin, > > Thanks for getting that updated. We'll get the IBM information posted in > there before tomorrow. Note: for legal reasons we cannot disclose any > performance information. > > Cheers, > > -Nick > > > Nicholas Gallardo > WebSphere - REST & WebServices Development > [email protected] > Phone: 512-286-6258 > Building: 903 / 5G-016 > "Snitkovsky, Martin" <[email protected]> > > > "Snitkovsky, Martin" <[email protected]> > > 06/22/2009 07:14 AM > > Please respond to > [email protected] > > To > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > cc > > Subject > RE: Architecture Q&A Call > Hi All, > I have updated the comparison wiki with HP specific information. > I suggest reading this before tomorrow meeting, so it can be used as a basis > for the architecture Q&A Call. > > I think it would also be helpful if IBM could also fill IBM runtime > specifics. > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Runtime+comparison > > > -martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Baram, Eliezer > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Architecture Q&A Call > > Hi > As I sees the wiki page contain agenda for 3 different discussions > 1) Architecture > 2) Goals and development phases > 3) Testing > > Since the purpose of this call is "Architecture Q&A" I think we should > concentrate on the first, Architecture. > A baseline to the call can be the "Runtime comparison" page that Martin > created > (http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Runtime+comparison). > > -- Eli > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Snitkovsky, Martin > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Architecture Q&A Call > > I have updated "Architecture Meeting And Agenda" wiki > (http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda) > > Modified bullet [* Third party dependencies] > New Bullet [* Client API] > New Bullet [* Configurability] > > -- Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elman, Michael > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:52 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Architecture Q&A Call > > I updates the following bullets: > * Required plug points into runtime > * Long term goals > And I also changed formatting a bit, for example I put both the integration > and unit tests under the Testing bullet. > > Michael Elman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryant Luk [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 7:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call > > I did a quick wiki page for the agenda at: > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda > > <http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WINK/Architecture+Meeting+And+Agenda>Please > add anything you wish to discuss. I added some initial goals in a somewhat > logical order (like short term goals first then choose architecture) that we > should discuss them. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Thanks Dims, >> >> Since I called for the meeting, I'll take responsibility for getting the >> info for the meeting posted and for getting summaries documented and >> posted. >> >> >> -Nick >> >> >> >> Nicholas Gallardo >> WebSphere - REST & WebServices Development >> [email protected] >> Phone: 512-286-6258 >> Building: 903 / 5G-016 >> [image: Inactive hide details for Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>] >> Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> *Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>* >> >> 06/18/2009 02:47 PM >> Please respond to >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> To >> >> [email protected] >> cc >> >> >> Subject >> >> Re: Architecture Q&A Call >> >> Eli, >> >> The goal is to be as open as possible and post as many things as possible >> ahead of time, anything/everything to >> facilitate an off-line discussion and ensure broadest participation. >> >> * Any documents, please post URL's to wink-dev@ before the meeting (google >> docs or wiki or JIRA or anywhere else public >> is ok) >> * Come up with some sort of agenda items that needs to be discussed (this >> can be done on the wiki) >> * Set up a specific start/stop time for the meeting so everyone can plan >> to >> be there at least for that duration. >> * Please post the date/time of the IRC meeting, agenda and pointers to any >> documents. >> * Someone should volunteer to keep the meeting on track >> * Come up with proposals and possible solutions or action items for agenda >> items >> * Post all above in logical chunks to wink-dev@ and ask for closure on the >> mailing list. This helps people who cannot >> attend the IRC chat and still want to participate >> * When the chat winds down, please post the log to wink-dev. >> >> thanks, >> dims >> >> >> >> On 06/18/2009 01:53 PM, Baram, Eliezer wrote: >> > Dim, >> > I'm new to IRC meeting and I try to figure out the right format that >> > will >> make this meeting work. >> > I would call the meeting successful if valid questions will be raised >> during the conference and a discussion will be made. >> > >> > How do you recommend to run the IRC meeting ? >> > >> > If we were running the meeting In a conference call with an ability to >> share documents (by Google document for instance, or sent earlier by mail) >> I >> would format this meeting in a way where the contributors of the >> submissions >> would present their submission. These presentations would hopefully raise >> questions, and a discussion will be created. What can be an IRC >> alternative >> to this in order to trigger such discussion? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Eli >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >> > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: Architecture Q&A Call >> > >> > Nick, >> > >> > Yes, please use IRC and post the transcript to the mailing list. >> > >> > No, you cannot make decisions on the IRC chat, you need to post what >> > ever >> you are proposing on the mailing list and VOTE >> > on it (72 hours etc as usual) >> > >> > thanks, >> > dims >> > >> > On 06/18/2009 10:45 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: >> >> Jason, you (and anyone else for that matter) are absolutely invited, >> should >> >> have made that point clear. I mentioned it on the list for exactly >> >> that >> >> reason though. >> >> >> >> I agree that calls are not typical for the Apache projects I've seen >> >> either. But, it was proposed as a means to try to work through the >> issues >> >> quickly and to get everyone acquainted. Most discussion will obviously >> >> happen on the mailing lists. But, we need to come to a decision >> >> quickly >> on >> >> the base code as that's holding up any other work. If the community >> would >> >> rather handle it via IRC then we can do that. If done on IRC, do you >> just >> >> copy/paste the transcript somewhere for people to comment on later? >> >> >> >> Mentors, any suggestions here for how to have synchronous work sessions >> to >> >> get through discussions quickly? >> >> >> >> -Nick >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nicholas Gallardo >> >> WebSphere - REST& WebServices Development >> >> [email protected] >> >> Phone: 512-286-6258 >> >> Building: 903 / 5G-016 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jason Dillon >> >> <[email protected] >> >> om> >> To >> >> Sent by: Jason [email protected] >> >> Dillon >> cc >> >> <jason.dil...@gma >> >> il.com> >> Subject >> >> Re: Architecture Q&A Call >> >> >> >> 06/18/2009 09:11 >> >> AM >> >> >> >> >> >> Please respond to >> >> wink-...@incubato >> >> r.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think I can make that, if I'm invited of course. >> >> >> >> Though along those lines, typically "calls" aren't really used that >> >> much by the Apache community... IRC at times has even been a stretch, >> >> though I think many communities use it for regular group >> >> communications. It may be construed as a bad sign if the first major >> >> discussion is effectively offline. Perhaps if a transcript of the >> >> call was recorded somewhere, on this list, it might fly. Otherwise >> >> it may be better from a community perspective to hold this meeting >> >> over IRC on freenode.net. But I'm unsure, we'll let the mentors chime >> >> in more on this. >> >> >> >> I do think there needs to be more discussion on the merits of both >> >> codebases before a descison is made. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps... >> >> >> >> --jason >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote: >> >> >> >>> All, >> >>> >> >>> I think it would be useful to have a call next week for some Q&A >> >>> regarding >> >>> the two runtimes and architectures. We can have the relevant people >> >>> give >> >>> summaries of the work that's been contributed and then answer >> >>> questions. >> >>> >> >>> Given the geographic dispersion, getting a time nailed down will be >> >>> tough. >> >>> How does 8:00AM CST on Tuesday the 23rd work for everyone? >> >>> >> >>> -Nick >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Nicholas Gallardo >> >>> WebSphere - REST& WebServices Development >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> Phone: 512-286-6258 >> >>> Building: 903 / 5G-016 >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > - Bryant Luk > > -- - Bryant Luk
