[Winona Online Democracy]

 Re Separate Forums





Ah, d�j� vu, Kathy and Randy. The issue of separate forums and non-local
issues has come up often, the most recent in February 2002, November 2002,
and April 2003. But here we are again.



I'm aware of the original goal of local affairs for Online Democracy. But it
became evident that participants found restriction to local issues confining
and often tended to go beyond Winona's boundaries. I now agree with those
supporting just one forum for local and national/international affairs. The
connection between the two, as Bob Sebo's comment on the Iraq War
illustrate, is great even when not specifically stated. Additionally, one
problem with moving to the national forum is that its URL is not listed on
Online Democracy's messages and that most people probably have no idea where
it is. I have no idea. The plan of separate forums seemed OK at one time,
but it hasn't worked out. The model for different Online Democracy forums
seemed to be the arrangement in the Twin Cities, where the separate forums
for national/international and state affairs accompany those for St. Paul
and Minneapolis.  But the cities have many times the population of Winona,
and separation is necessary to avoid clogging lines of communication. There
is no need for Winona to adhere to such a criterion. Different geographical
places in Online Democracy need different approaches. In the past year or
two, with only one forum and an emphasis on local ramifications of issues,
we have gone for long periods without any messages other than announcements
or requests for information-and sometimes without even these.



Whether discussion of non-local affairs tends to destroy civility is
questionable. A year ago Kathy and Sharon Ropes wrote, "It sounds like there
is interest in widening the discussion to include more of the big picture,
but not at a cost in civility.." Civility, however, is an individual matter,
and even in a separate forum, some items will evoke strong emotions. In any
democratic group strong emotions should be expected. (In the Twin Cities,
local affairs have often resulted in more ferocity in forums than national
or international affairs). But when emotions turn to incivility, moderators
can take action. Even assuming more anger over national and international
issues than local ones (and that is a big assumption), it is true that a few
emotional displays may dissuade some people from participation, but I
suspect that a larger number may be dissuaded by a lack of topics of
interest (or simply a lack of time). With respect to public officials, I
doubt that bursts of incivility really frighten many. (Controversial topics
do, but it would be self-defeating to eliminate these just to attract more
of these people). Overall, participation in one thread often encourages
participation in others, and a look over the archives makes it very clear
that Dwayne Voegeli is correct in asserting that "the most lively threads
have occurred when the forum was more free-flowing and when we weaved in and
out of local-state-national-global issues."



Roy Nasstrom
















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