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Title: Re: [Winona] Vote on Nov. 8th!


Dick,
 
Regarding relying on bonding to fulfill our educational needs.  Bonding equals interest payments.  As a taxpayer and school supporter I would rather the publics limited resources be spent directly on our actual needs and not wasted on interest payments.  Much more bang for the buck.  Voting YES -YES- YES is really the only logical choice for those who wish to support this referendum!
 
Greg Olson
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Vote on Nov. 8th!

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Thanks to all who have given their opinions on the referendum both in the paper and here.  One main concern if the referendum fails is the loss of extarcurriculars at the secondary level.  Many people doubt that will happen that private funding and increased fees will take up the slack.
   I seriously doubt that would happen.  I was told at the referendum meeting in Rollingstone that 50% or more of our high school students take part in extra curriculars.  Some people feel we should be educating with out extras and have "just the basics".  If these activities are cut, I predict you will see a mass exodus from the high school to Cotter and any other district with extra curriculars.  It has been suggested that would not happen because of transportation.  I think we forget that from at 16 and up many of these students already drive and it would be just as easy to go a little farther for their education.
   I encourage everyone to vote and support at least question 1.  Questions 2 and 3 can be done with either bonding or donations for technology from our many fine organizations (i.e. PTA, Jaycees, Lions, Etc)  
   You may want to vote early as with fewer polling place their will be considerably more registered voters. For example the Rollingstone sit will go from about 400 voters for general elections to almost 2400 for this election. There will be no way to break down the vote this time as to specific attendance areas as in the past.
                  DIck Gaffron   
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Vote on Nov. 8th!

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Kathy/all:

Profiling a person who doesn't vote for this referendum may be unfair.  I'm pretty sure the discussion is beyond getting anyone to change their views.

I think to get people to change their views, you have to offer new information that is believable.

It's about trust and perception.  I doubt if there are too many people on either side of the fence who is ready to change his or her mind at this point.

Meaningful dialogue is rare and both sides are guilty of misinformation. It's hard to come up with simple answers to such a complex dilemma.

I don't think a failed referendum will flush this community down the toilet and I don't think a passed referendum will fix the financial troubles of the school district.

Let's hope - either way - we keep trying to offer the best in our schools with the resources that are available.

Jim Galewski

From: "Kathy Seifert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:50:50 -0600
To: "Leslie Hittner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "WOD" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Winona] Vote on Nov. 8th!


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I worked fine for me, Les. I have noticed that the forum has been pretty quiet on this issue, while the letters in both papers have been many.

I've been trying to get my head around why folks would not want to support our public schools and I've been talking to people about their views.

Bottom line for the fixed and lower income folks I've spoken to is they don't want a tax increase. They wonder why they should have to pay for "extracurriculars" like sports, drama, music, art, etc.  

Well, it sounds like if the referendum fails, many families will be paying for an extra day of childcare if the district goes to a 4 day week. I wonder how much that will cost families compared to the taxes?  Of course it will only affect the families with young children. (sarcasm begins here) They shouldn't have had them if they couldn't afford them.

Maybe the same should hold true for Medicare or Social Security then.  Let's do away with the FICA taxes for families with young children--they could use that money for extra childcare or "extracurricular" activities for their children.  Let those over 65 find income and funding for their medical care elsewhere--why should we have to pay?  Let them spend that $2 a day that the district wants on their medical bills and forget about Medicare--that shouldn't be our problem--we have to make sure our kids get an education and those seniors shouldn't have to pay for schools because they won't see any direct benefit.

Why don't we just pit different interest groups against each other and see who ends up on top?  Will it be seniors?  Folks who need round the clock care? Children? Mentally ill or disabled individuals? (end of sarcasm)

Is this what our country is all about?  Unfortunately it seems that it's only every one for him/herself when it's the "other"--if it's "my" life that's going to be impacted, well, that's another story.

What ever happened to communities pulling together?  How would our farming predecessors here in the Midwest have made it if it had been "every family for themselves" instead of barn raising and threshing crews?

To me, paying my fair share of income and property taxes is one way I contribute so that the whole community benefits. I just don't get why others don't seem to think they need to contribute to the well-being of our community.  That seems to be the bottom line that is justified with anger and false claims and accusations toward elected officials with whom they disagree.  It is very sad for our community, but I know that I will vote my conscience on Tuesday and I am willing to do my fair share so that we have a school system to be proud of in our community.

Kathy Seifert


----- Original Message -----
From: Leslie Hittner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: WOD <mailto:[email protected]>  
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Vote on Nov. 8th!

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I tried to get the WDN to publish this but its way too long and they said NO.  It was getting near their deadline for inclusion in the paper before the referendum and I did not have time to rewrite.

Here is my response to Linda Fort's Editorial last week (I hope this link works for everybody.)

http://www.hbci.com/~johittner/Hittner/Referendum%20Support.pdf

-Leslie Hittner




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