[Winona Online Democracy] Linda Fort wrote:
> A farmer does take good care of his/her animals. That's not necessarily true. And it's quite unlikely in the concentrated animal prisons of a factory farm. It all depends on the scale of the farm. That is the major theme of this entire story. > If our county board deny any farmer who meets all the > standards/regulations for expansion the board must issue a > permit. If they do not the farmer will have a case to sue the > county for his permit. No, the County Commission is empowered to deny a permit based on the evidence in each case. > The website speaks of animal waste contaminating our drinking > water. Does it not bother you that the huge cities in this > country can open their sewage valves and let raw human sewage > (which is much more dangerous than animal sewage) into our > fresh rivers and water ways? Two wrongs don't make a right: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/two-wrongs-make-a-right.html Furthermore, I think Linda is wrong on the facts. As I cited on the web page, the impact of animal manure is far greater than from human waste. > If you have never farmed you have no idea how hard it is to > make it. I'll defer to what Ken Avidor wrote when I showed him Linda's message. He wrote, "I love that argument. I should be allowed to pour ink on passersby from my studio window while screaming, 'You don't know how hard it is to be a cartoonist!'" -------------------------------------------------- Michael Kirschmann wrote: > We'd be a greater country and community if we had more public > servants with the ethics and integrity that Dwayne displays. Betrayal is a very poor example of integrity. > Who could the Green's get who has earned the amount of > respect across partisan lines that Dwayne has? I responded to the populist argument here: http://greenpartygonebad.blogspot.com > If those feedlot study committee members had not walked out > those years ago, it's highly probable that we would have a > more highly defined feedlot ordinance today. Duane Bell and Jerry Heim had no problem with doing the right thing and voting against the permits. > Those that disagree with the current adopted feedlot ordinance > should work to change it through the legal and established > process which is clearly outlined in the county zoning > ordinance. Those who seek to change laws and ordinances > arbitrarily and capriciously are the real danger to our > community and our democracy. What hog manure that is. County Commissioners are not there to rubberstamp a "process" for funneling large feedlots into Winona County. Challenging a feedlot ordinance by denying individual permits is hardly "arbitrary and capricious" when the denial is based on scientific evidence. That was exactly the case made by Jim Riddle and several others. The "legal and established" processes in Minnesota and the United States are almost always the result of a top-down power structure. How much was the feedlot ordinance influenced by agribusiness? I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it was *written* by them. It was outrageous for Voegeli to accept the endorsement of the Green Party and then embrace a process designed to facilitate large scale. Challenging such laws and ordinances is not the danger to democracy -- because there is *no such thing* as large-scale democracy. We live in a corporate republic. The real danger to democracy is lies. Mark Knapp http://www.knappster.org/gangrene.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ This message was posted to Winona Online Democracy All messages must be signed by the senders actual name. No commercial solicitations are allowed on this list. To manage your subscription or view the message archives, please visit http://mapnp.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/winona Any problems or suggestions can be directed to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want help on how to contact elected officials, go to the Contact page at http://www.winonaonlinedemocracy.org
