Supposedly, with Concannon they are coming back with the unlimited
license- though I can't get a straight answer out of Cisco yet. I did
hear that pricing will be on the scale of $400,000 for the site license-
but like most things with this product line, it can be hard to get the
real (or consistent) story, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt so
far. Also, can't really get any guidance from Cisco on
"allowed"/recommended WCS configurations that wouldn't cost double for
AP licenses.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:04 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS- sparing/clustering

About a year ago, Cisco stopped offering a unlimited license for WCS. 
Existing unlimited license were converted to a 2500 AP license.

Todd Lane
ITS Telecommunications/Networking
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Frank Bulk wrote:
> I know we discussed WCS licensing on this listserv some time 
> ago....wasn't there a point where you bought enough AP licenses that
it 
> was cheaper to purchase the unlimited license for WCS?  And does that 
> give one the right to run WCS once, or many times?
>  
> Frank
> 
>
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> *From:* Paynter, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2007 8:26 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS- sparing/clustering
> 
> We are in the process of installing WCS, WiSMs, & APs (Cisco 1131s & 
> 1242s).  We may have as many as 8 WiSMs & 2,100 APs.  Won't know until

> the site surveys are complete.  We are also implementing Cisco Clean 
> Access at the same time on the WLAN for security.
> 
>  
> 
> Currently we have 4 WiSMs (4.0.217.0) & about 200 APs installed.  We 
> have WCS (4.0.87) running on a very robust VM server.  Cisco does not 
> support WCS on VM at this time!  WCS respond slowly in the VM 
> environment.  The reason we went this way was for fault tolerance and 
> redundancy.  We also have WCS (4.0.96) running on a standalone server
as 
> a test and the performance is excellent!  At some point Cisco has to 
> solve the VM issue because nobody will buy twice as many AP licenses
to 
> run 2 WCS Servers.  For now as long as you have a backup of WCS it is 
> very easy to install from scratch and restore!
> 
>  
> 
> The bottom line is the WiSMs & APs will work without WCS.  You can
still 
> manage the WiSMs & APs but would lose central monitoring of all WiSMs,

> APs, Clients, & misc Security features such as rogue APs, signature 
> attacks, etc.
> 
>  
> 
> Jeff  
> 
>  
> 
> Jeffrey M. Paynter
> 
> Communications Analyst Lead
> 
> University of Rochester Medical Center
> 
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Office:  585.784.2405
> 
>
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> 
> *From:* Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2007 8:18 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WCS- sparing/clustering
> 
>  
> 
> With a rapidly growing wireless environment, WCS is getting to be more

> critical. Wondering what others may be doing to provide fault
tolerance, 
> backup, and/or failover for WCS server.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Lee H. Badman
> 
> Wireless/Network Engineer
> 
> KC2IYK, CWNA/CWSP
> 
> Information Technology and Services
> 
> Syracuse University
> 
> 315 443-3003
> 
>  
> 
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