We have never used any type on enclosures. 
In the past 9 years we've had only 2 APs stolen, but we tend to install our APs 
in sight below the ceiling. 
Users know what they are, and knocking them down is only going  to affect their 
access, so  for the most  part they're left untouched. 

We have had issues with leaving them in the ceiling though...contractors will 
come in and demo a room which has APs and I find out the hard way that a 
particual area is under reno...with the APs below ceiling, they usually ask 
about it, and I get call about removing APs before  renos start...




Ken Connell
Intermediate Network Engineer
Computer & Communication Services
Ryerson University
350 Victoria St
RM AB50
Toronto, Ont
M5B 2K3
416-979-5000 x6709

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Gogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:51 am
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WAP Enclosures
To: [email protected]


> I'm curious to know what other campuses are doing in regards to 
> ceiling 
> enclosures for access points.
> 
> We've been using PANDUIT-PZXIFIED and PANDUIT-PZW2X2DCB ceiling 
> enclosure hardware but our Facilities folks and our Infrastructure 
> Engineering folks in conversations with the State Building Code 
> officers 
> have determined that the labor/installation costs for those enclosures 
> 
> are now going to go up (see below) and, well suffice it to say, when 
> it 
> gets to the point that the enclosures themselves start to get closer 
> in 
> cost to the APs, you gotta wonder.
> 
> Would be interested to hear what others are doing in this regard. 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -- Jim Gogan
>     Director, Networking / ITS Telecommunications
>     Univ of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: WAP - Mounting Brackets and Enclosures - Support 
> Requirements Reseach and Conclusions-11-01-07
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:41:18 -0400
> 
> All:
> 
> I just concluded a conversation with Mike Ward....Department of
> Insurance Risk Management (Electrical Section) State Building Code
> Enforcement Officer.....the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) on Campus.
> 
> Mr. Ward had done research regarding our request for clarification on
> the support requirements for WAP (Wireless Access Point) back boxes.
> 
> Simply stated:
> 
> * to satisfy NEC requirements....the back box must be secured to the
> ceiling grid system w/ approved clips or brackets.
> 
> * to satisfy DOI requirements....the back box must be secured to the
> building support structure.
> 
> This can be accomplished by securing at least a single support
> wire....of gauge adequate to support weight of device....from the back
> box to an anchor in structure. The anchor may be new....or an existing
> ceiling support eye (existing support of grid system) or an anchor in
> structure that currently is used in support of  duct work....conduit
> trapeze.....etc.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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