We have also decided against enclosures for two reasons: cost and aesthetics. 
Having mostly standardized on the Cisco 1130 for a/g, the form-factor is close 
enough to that of smoke heads and other  devices that they are far easier on 
the eye than the typical enclosure. And has been stated here by others, the 
enclosures can often add half again or more to the per-AP cost. When we did our 
dorms and student apartments 100% last year, we put hundreds and hundreds of 
APs within reach of  potential theft, some ended up in student rooms out of 
necessity. To date, we have lost 1. 

But- as we look at 11n and weigh options, I hope that the major players hear 
the call for APs that aren't obviously and visually antenna laden. These are 
probably easier targets versus "low profile" APs, mounting candidate locations 
are reduced, and they are a tougher sell to very particular architects and 
space planners.

-Lee Badman 


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of 
Hector J Rios
Sent: Mon 4/14/2008 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WAP Enclosures
 
I agree with Michael. The "added" security provided by the enclosures
doesn't justify the cost. Most of our APs are installed above ceiling.
Locations where we do not have false ceiling, we put the APs high enough
where they cannot be reach. In the 9 years we've had wireless, we've had
4 APs stolen. Paying for the replacement is way cheaper. Currently we
have a little over 1500 APs installed. 

Hector

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Kaegler
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WAP Enclosures

We stopped using them.

There are no moving parts, so we don't need dust protection.
All of the current generation of APs are plenum.

And security: If the AP is on top of the drop ceiling, out of sight, 
then its out of mind. In our environment we don't need any additional 
security (As evidenced by the fact that we haven't had a single loss 
even in student dorm buildings, even ones where we had to place the 
AP on the bare wall inside the student broom closets!). We do use the 
integrated (although not exactly hardened) locking mechanism on the 
Cisco 1232/1242 APs. In some situations we use kenningston-style 
cable locks.
-porkchop


At 9:50 AM -0400 4/14/08, Jim Gogan wrote:
>I'm curious to know what other campuses are doing in regards to 
>ceiling enclosures for access points.
>
>We've been using PANDUIT-PZXIFIED and PANDUIT-PZW2X2DCB ceiling 
>enclosure hardware but our Facilities folks and our Infrastructure 
>Engineering folks in conversations with the State Building Code 
>officers have determined that the labor/installation costs for those 
>enclosures are now going to go up (see below) and, well suffice it 
>to say, when it gets to the point that the enclosures themselves 
>start to get closer in cost to the APs, you gotta wonder.
>
>Would be interested to hear what others are doing in this regard. 
>Thanks in advance.
>

-- 
Michael "Porkchop" Kaegler, Sr. Network Analyst
(845) 575-3061 Marist College, Poughkeepsie, NY

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