I had to do the same....I believe the correct term is "symmetric
tunneling" ....picky, picky, picky :)

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd M. Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:06 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller

This is probably unrelated, but here goes.  We are running 4.2.61.0 on
all our 
WiSMs and they have been very stable as long as ssh is disabled.  We
were 
getting reports of clients that were connected and working one minute
and 
connected and not working the next.  We traced the problem down to a
failed 
roam.  If we looked the user up in WCS, they would exist on two
different 
controllers at the same time with a protocol of "mobile" on one of them.
The 
only way we could get them working again was for them to disconnect,
wait for 5 
minutes and try again (or we could kick both connections off manually).
We did 
some searching and found that lots of users were in this same state at
any given 
time.

We enabled "symmetric mobility" on all our controllers.  This solved the

problem.  Now when a client roams to an AP on a different controller, a
tunnel 
is setup between the anchor controller and the new controller.  Roaming
is fast 
and simple.


On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Johnson, Bruce T wrote:

> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:43:15 -0400
> From: "Johnson, Bruce T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>     <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller
> 
> Bear in mind the controllers are designed to remove associations (and
save
> resources) if there hasn't been any traffic seen from the clients.
The User
> Idle Timeout is responsible for this behavior.
>
> You can increase this value from its default of 300s to a higher
value.  This
> will keep the (inactive) association active longer.  I'm trying to
find out from
> Cisco whether this will preserve L3 roaming for mobile devices that
don't issue
> DHCP renewals effectively.  Note this can increase memory utilization
and will
> adversely impact location-by-association.
>
> BTW, here's an example of the radio reset syslog messages I'm seeing
from the
> APs.  Looks like it might be related to another control-plane
management
> function like the aforementioned TSM.  Only the b/g radios are
affected.
>
> 10-08-2008    18:28:46        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17333:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:28:45        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17332:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:28:40        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17331:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:28:40        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17330:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Running timer, init, timer =
A0786C.
> -Process= "LWAPP 802.11 MAC Management Reception", ipl= 0, pid= 37
-Traceback=
> 0x5DCB8 0x15F194 0x15F300 0x15F490 0x46F17C 0x46D0E0 0x46D4C4 0x46D5BC
0x193F50
> 10-08-2008    18:28:39        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17329:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:12:20        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16239:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:12:19        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16238:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:12:14        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16237:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:10:42        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   101:
> AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:10:42        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   100:
> AP:001e.be27.017e: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Running timer, init, timer =
D382B4.
> -Process= "LWAPP 802.11 MAC Management Reception", ipl= 0, pid= 42
-Traceback=
> 0x5DCB8 0x161FBC 0x162128 0x1622B8 0x4C32FC 0x4C1260 0x4C1644 0x4C173C
0x196D90
> 10-08-2008    18:10:41        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   99:
> AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:10:36        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   98:
> AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:10:35        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   97:
> AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:07:40        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17328:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:07:39        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17327:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Running timer, init, timer =
A07D7C.
> -Process= "LWAPP 802.11 MAC Management Reception", ipl= 0, pid= 37
-Traceback=
> 0x5DCB8 0x15F194 0x15F300 0x15F490 0x46F17C 0x46D0E0 0x46D4C4 0x46D5BC
0x193F50
> 10-08-2008    18:07:39        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17326:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:07:34        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17325:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:07:33        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17324:
> AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:00:20        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16236:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:00:19        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16235:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
> 10-08-2008    18:00:14        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16234:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to up
> 10-08-2008    18:00:13        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16233:
> AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed
state to down
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Lane
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:24 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller
>
> We've been running a "Engineering Special" version of 4.2.130.0 since
> August and it's been stable so far. We had several problems with
> 4.2.185.0 including controller reboots and lockups. The general
release
> version of 4.2.130.0 fixed all the major problems we were seeing
except
> two and the engineering special took care of those.
>
> We're just starting to get reports from clients with random
disconnects.
>
> --Todd
>
> Mike King wrote:
>> So Cisco LWAPP people,
>>
>> Currently we're on 4.1.185.0 <http://4.1.185.0>. It's a 4402
controller,
>> with 1131AG access points.
>>
>> Anyone made the leap to one of the 4.2, 5.0 , or 5.1 trains without
>> seriously regretting it?
>>
>> We've had some random disconnects with clients.  It's pretty common,
>> happening to most all users.  We're running WPA-PSK, so it's not an
>> 802.1x issue.  Before we involve TAC, we figured we should upgrade to
a
>> new code train.
>>
>> Mike
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Todd M. Hall
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Mississippi State University
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